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Old 10-04-2007, 10:21 PM
 
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Apparently Gandhi didn't impress you and his wisdom is now irrelevant. Oh well.

The next terrorist attack will not make me hate terrorists even if I die in the event. You can't blame one side in a war when both sides are willing participants. Their actions are in response to our actions. Your response, as well as many Americans, will be to kill them. They will return the favor. And on and on. THAT is the losing game in a nutshell.
Ok mhouse, it is pretty clear now where you are coming from, basically you are saying that America deserved to be hit on 9/11 because of our actions?
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:41 PM
 
Location: South East UK
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Ok mhouse, it is pretty clear now where you are coming from, basically you are saying that America deserved to be hit on 9/11 because of our actions?
This is an interesting post 'cos it raises the question, why? If we are to understand how things come about surely we must ask ourselves what was in the mind of the brain behind this or that plot?

When critics of any particular action of any leader point up an issue they have a duty to themselves and who they represent to "look around the mountain". By this mature approach understanding can be derived.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:56 PM
 
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Ok mhouse, it is pretty clear now where you are coming from, basically you are saying that America deserved to be hit on 9/11 because of our actions?
Quit trying to bait people into sounding "Un-Amerkun"

What he is saying is true... "They" did hit us on 9/11 because of our ACTIONS; "they" have said so many times...NO ONE said anything about us deserving to be hit.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:20 PM
 
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Quit trying to bait people into sounding "Un-Amerkun"

What he is saying is true... "They" did hit us on 9/11 because of our ACTIONS; "they" have said so many times...NO ONE said anything about us deserving to be hit.
I dont have to bait anyone into sounding un American, (why would you spell it like you did?) I have been trying to give him opportunities to NOT sound un American. when someone makes a statement like "The next terrorist attack will not make me hate terrorists even if I die in the event." and "Their actions are in response to our actions." That sounds at best neutral, like we and the terrorists are equal, and worst, like somehow it is our fault for getting hit! and in my book ,That is un American!
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I dont have to bait anyone into sounding un American, (why would you spell it like you did?) I have been trying to give him opportunities to NOT sound un American. when someone makes a statement like "The next terrorist attack will not make me hate terrorists even if I die in the event." and "Their actions are in response to our actions." That sounds at best neutral, like we and the terrorists are equal and worst, like somehow it is our fault for getting hit! and in my book ,That is un American!

Don't forget that the Japanese hit us because of our actions. For that matter, so did the kid behind us in school when we took Suzy Creamcheese to the Halloween Dance.

Actions have consequences, there's no arguing with that.

But quibbling over who started the ruckus is pointless. It's not about who hits first.

It's about who hits last.
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:09 PM
 
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Don't forget that the Japanese hit us because of our actions. For that matter, so did the kid behind us in school when we took Suzy Creamcheese to the Halloween Dance.

Actions have consequences, there's no arguing with that.

But quibbling over who started the ruckus is pointless. It's not about who hits first.

It's about who hits last.
your absolutely right, however I think the real issue is there are those whom under no circumstances want see the terrorists as the bad guys, especially if it in any way lends to the idea that Bush may be the good guy!
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:28 PM
 
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When it comes to international conflicts there typically are no "good guys."
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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When it comes to international conflicts there typically are no "good guys."
You mean in the Real world - not in the Fantasy world some live in where Osama is Dr. Doom, Saddam is the Green Goblin, Bush is Spidey and Condoleeza guest stars as Wonder Woman in the fourth episode.
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:34 PM
 
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When it comes to international conflicts there typically are no "good guys."
Hitler = FDR?

What you smokin', dude?
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Your mind
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I said typically. And I never said anything about there being a lack of bad guys. We've been the "bad guy" (or one of them) in some conflicts ourselves, most of them dating back to the colonial days when the "enlightened countries" were all out competing to see who could build the biggest empire.

And the only thing I smoke is LIES. The lying green flower buds of the smelly, leafy tree of intoxicating untruth and relaxing fabrication.
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