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Old 07-22-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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I'm just surprised that no lobby group was created to address this issue. There appears to be a serious need for a platform which highlights the child rearing experiences of black married women.
Sounds to me like you have found your calling.... Go for it.!
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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As a black woman, I understand and share your concerns. But, sadly, on this forum, this topic will only become another opportunity to bash black women and the "black community" in general. I agree with Ovcatto. Another venue would probably yield more constructive responses. Of course, I could be wrong. This could be a rare exception.
You're not wrong. The bashing of Black people in general on this forum is beyond nauseating. Amazing how the fact that the majority of serial killers, rapists and child molesters throughout the history of this country are White is always being down played on this forum.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Alexandria
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Why would I as a black woman mobilized against single motherhood when it is my belief that women should not have children at all?

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Old 07-22-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: USA
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On average black men make about 9 bucks less than white men, you should put down ESSENCE magazine and actually read of book about black history, maybe that will help you a bit since you constantly seem like the uppity woman with nothing upstairs beyond a degree....

black men have always struggled financially, we were brought from slavery to blue collar jobs, we never had a history in white corporate america.

The real issue is most black men are undesirable outside of sex since the majority are making under 30k a year...

I forgot the name of the guy who made that 1000+ reply thread on this very same topic
I have a thorough understanding of black history and most importantly, the struggles of my immediate family. That's why I consistently raise the bar, and have never settled, or made excuses for not being able to achieve a goal. If you choose to label me as 'uppity' due to your own insecurities, so be it.

And for the record, this thread is NOT about the 'struggles' of black men.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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Are you kidding? There is a sizable number of people posting here who take enormous pleasure in criticizing anything and everything black people do, a much larger number of those than black married women looking to help single black mothers! Have you ever taken a look at all the basically black bashing threads on CD? According to many posters here, the black community is single-handedly responsible for the national debt because of welfare mothers.

Single mothers in the black community? This will turn into another bash fest within a couple pages.
I'm so white I glow, and I'm enjoying this thread. the earlier post by calipoppy was great, and I've never agreed with her on anything.
I find it interesting because I would love to see an answer to the problem for white, black and Hispanic, etc..
I've always though that if there were no babies born out of wedlock, there would be very little crime or other types problems overpopulation bring.. It is definitely not only a black problem, it affects everyone..
Whites aren't as racist as some of you like to believe, we just hate seeing into the ghettos and would like to see them vastly improved.. That includes the "White Trash", too..!
OK< now beat me up..!
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: around racist white people
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I have a thorough understanding of black history and most importantly, the struggles of my immediate family. That's why I consistently raise the bar, and have never settled, or made excuses for not being able to achieve a goal.


Also, please recognize that this thread is NOT about the 'struggles' of black men.
If you have a understanding of black history you'd understand that raising the bar will result in a change of mentality......

You're dealing with primarily old school men (of all races) and modern women, you don't have to be scientist to figure out what's going to happen here.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Anyone is free to partake in the discussion, but I'm surprised that you are commenting, since you have made it clear that you don't really view marriage as important.
Just b/c I don't the government institution of marriage on the same pedestal as you do doesn't mean I've never acknowledge the issues troubling the black community. Is your thread simply another thread pushing for people to get married or are you looking to tackle the issue from a broader perspective?
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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I simply do not understand why there hasn't been a political platform set up to address the pervasive issue of single motherhood amongst black women. Black women should not wait for the government to save them. Surely, if that were going to happen, it would have already taken place. More, simply need to organize around this platform and reach out to the masses of young black women who are being socially conditioned to accept the notion that raising children alone, without a father's involvement is fine.

When in fact:

Blacks struggle with 72 percent unwed mothers rate - Health - Women's health - NBCNews.com


I just do not forsee any changes occuring, until black women collectively organize, to address this issue. I can't however understand why so many of us continue to sing the praises of black single motherhood, when it's a well known fact that black children (as an aggregate group) are not thriving under these circumstances.
It's not a political issue; it's a personal and cultural issue.

What would be the purpose of politicizing who somebody has sex with and whether either partner decided to use birth control?

What legislation could possibly be passed to address the issue? NONE!

That's why it's not a political issue.

It's not that complicated, in most cases a woman decides who she wants to have sex with.

In most cases a woman has a choice in terms if decides to use contraceptives and what contraceptive to use. She also has the choice in deciding whether to have sex with a man that isn't using a contraceptive.

These are all personal decisions that are in some part influenced by culture.

The real issue here is how do you address this issue on a cultural basis?

As long as there are women that are willing to have sex without using contraceptives, there is going to be the chance for pregnancy.

I can't imagine why you deem this to be a political issue.

There are many times where people criticize Black Americans for not exercising personal responsibility. This is one area that can be address by people simply making more responsible choices in their lives.

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Old 07-22-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Here is my problem with this whole concept, is that it is also teaching that a person's skin color makes a difference in life. I would much rather see Americans stand up and proclaim to other Americans that single parenthood is not something to be glorified.
I agree with this^^^. Single parenthood is not something to be glorified.
Most prisoners come from single parent households (usually moms only). I will
not go the color route, but women should respect themselves more and demand
men to marry them instead of being sperm donors. Only women decide who they
sleep with, only they can respect themselves enough to be with men who respect
them and honor their responsibilities.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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I simply do not understand why there hasn't been a political platform set up to address the pervasive issue of single motherhood amongst black women.
Where has there been any movement agaisnt single mothers?
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