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Yes, I remember considering Houston in 1980. In my area, the economy was in the tank, new graduates were fleeing the state (no jobs there), and Sunday newspapers from Houston were available locally.
As I was living on a shoestring I thought I couldn't afford to move to Houston without a job lined up; I don't think my clunker would have gotten me there, and there was no Cash for Clunkers program.
Illegals seem to have an edge here in mowing lawns - seems to be a lot of them doing it - and they have pickups in which to get around. I don't even have anywhere to store a mower, let alone move it around town.
Then you
A) cut your prices to compete with illegal labor
or
B) Find other work
McDonalds hiring almost every day, most folks make more then lawn services do.
There is no need for a minimum wage. Well there is now, becasue we've gutted organized labor.
I say get the government out of the wage market. Let minimum wage drop to a ridiculously low number 3 dollars an hour. If you want more, work harder, start your own business, or find another job. If you think that your employer is making more money and not helping the employees out enough, organize, and strike.
Okay, so you picked choice number one and decided to pay them a higher minimum wage. You are left with 12.749 million people on unemployment who won't be productive at all and you'll either have to give them money from the people that are working or leave them with nothing at all to live on.
You will no doubt choose to give them money from the people that are working because you want to give people a "living wage."
Can you not see how screwed up the liberal mind is?
If raising the minimum wage is good for the economy why not jack it up to $20/hr?
I wasn't suggesting anything like $20/hr - but more around the $10 mark.
And the living wage would only be for those that are working, the unemployed would get only basic subsistence welfare.
It would raise the federal minimum from 7.25 to 9.80 over 3 years and tie it to inflation. It would raise and set the federal minimum wage for tipped workers to 70% of the standard minimum wage.
This leglislation doesn't appear to be before congress, yet.
Will it be used to garner votes in anyway possible, by throwing low-wage folks a bone, strategically during election year? Yes, I'm aware not many folks actually make minimum wage, but a whole lot more folks do make less than $9.80. And tipped workers would see their minimum wage roughly double. This legislation could draw a lot of attention and a lot of votes for Democrats.
sure thing, as long as it only effects federal workers and not employees in the several states.
all this would do is make it so small businesses would be able to hire more workers.
I say get the government out of the wage market. Let minimum wage drop to a ridiculously low number 3 dollars an hour. If you want more, work harder, start your own business, or find another job. If you think that your employer is making more money and not helping the employees out enough, organize, and strike.
Free market at work.
So how could you start a business if you were only earning $3/hr?
How could you work harder, because you'd need to be doing 80hrs just to survive?
Organize, strike? - an easy slogan to throw out, but not rooted in reality.
Hours to work (min. wage) to buy SS tool
1950 : 169.50 / 0.75 = 226 hours
1980 : 799.99 / 3.10 = 258 hours
2010 : 2999.99 / 7.25 = 413 hours*
(* To add insult to injury, modern production technology reduces the amount of labor, and yet it costs MORE to buy! )
Thanks to the democratic socialist system, and the never ending inflation of the money system, today's worker has to work twice as much to get what his poor ancestors bought.
You can NEVER get ahead of the inflationary curve in that system.
A small reminder and a nod to Congress for debasing the money supply. Great job!
I am not an economist, but I think you have this wrong.
My understanding is that wealth and higher incomes are what causes the prices of things to go up in a functioning economy.
So you have more people who have more wealth and higher incomes that leads to things increasing in cost, becuase demand goes up because people have extra money to spend.
For examples, in how in areas with a lot of high income households, everything is more expensive in that area because those high income families increase demand.
So how could you start a business if you were only earning $3/hr?
How could you work harder, because you'd need to be doing 80hrs just to survive?
Organize, strike? - an easy slogan to throw out, but not rooted in reality.
You find another job that pays or more, you show where you have good credit with a good idea, and find a bank willing to finance your business, or you take out a government backed small business loan.
Happens everyday in these United States.
You wouldn't need 80 hrs just to survive. If wages fall, cost will fall, because demand falls. As prices fall, you can get by on less. Where do pepole get this idea that you need a lot of money for an individual to get by?
Why is it not rooted in reality? People used to strike in this country due to unfair wages from a profitable company all the time. Until the federal government started stepping in.
Get the federal government out of wages and watch the economy grow. In capitalism, there have to be winners and losers.
Thats the way it is. Its usualy those on the losing end that dont like hopw the game is played.
And just because you lose doesn't mean you have to starve to death, or be homeless, or go without healthcare. Thats the wonderful thing about being the richest country in the world.
But beggers can't be choosers either, on what handouts they get. Things like foodstamps for candy bars is ridiculous.
And just because you lose doesn't mean you have to starve to death, or be homeless, or go without healthcare. Thats the wonderful thing about being the richest country in the world.
But beggers can't be choosers either, on what handouts they get. Things like foodstamps for candy bars is ridiculous.
Couldnt agree more. For healthcare the local VA should be fine. No need for them to demand to see " their dr" when others are paying the bill.
Get the federal government out of wages and watch the economy grow. In capitalism, there have to be winners and losers.
that is true, but there is a line of thought which believes that this is not necessarily the best system.
How about a society of semi-winners and semi-losers - wouldn't that be better?
perhaps more stable and efficient long term as well.
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