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No, the information here makes those "morals" wrong. I didn't say "You're wrong because I'm not happy with what you've said". I said you're wrong because the factual evidence suggests gays should be allowed to get married and adopt, and no consistent evidence has been provided to suggest otherwise.
If not factual evidence or hate, what motivates someone to want to discriminate against a group of people?
And what would give them reason to say I'm "morally bankrupt"? I've given my reasons.
All you have proven is that humans fail. I am sure I can site some very nasty things done by homosexuals. However, that speaks to the person and not the morals.
Maybe you can not dislike action without disliking the person but I can.
You have not proven that I am morally bankrupt.
I believe that God created us to be sexual in a male and female fashion. That design implies to me that God's intent is for a male and female sexual relationship. Anything outside that intent is immoral.
I have stated my position. We can disagree but we don't have to hate each other over it.
By that I mean valid forms of documentation where it says fill in the blank and gives a selection with homosexual and heterosexual being choices.
Thank you.
You're welcome. I never said there was a choice. I never believed it was a choice. I believe gays must be born gay, especially for men. No man who had a choice would choose to
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The point of a boycott is not to drive a business out of business. It's to get a business to cease whatever practice made some potential and current customers unhappy. A boycott is the fault of a business, not the consumer, as it is the business that put itself in the position that made a boycott possible.
Agreed. However; a business owner can certainly retract a comment or cease to contribute to certain organizations but my question is. Would you ever purchase from them again? So a boycott is ultimately to harm the business owner
No, the information here makes those "morals" wrong. I didn't say "You're wrong because I'm not happy with what you've said". I said you're wrong because the factual evidence suggests gays should be allowed to get married and adopt, and no consistent evidence has been provided to suggest otherwise.
If not factual evidence or hate, what motivates someone to want to discriminate against a group of people?
And what would give them reason to say I'm "morally bankrupt"? I've given my reasons.
I'm not sure you gave "factual evidence" of anything either way. I think you gave some anecdotal evidence, biased by your own personal beliefs. Which is fine and good.. I even agree with them. However, that being said, who are you to say someone ELSE's beliefs are wrong and hate filled, just because you disagree with them? I mean, isn't this the same arguement about abortion? The christians think it's murder and horrible because it's a living being, and the right says the fetus doesn't matter. Well their morals are no better or worse than yours! They aren't any more filled with hate, then you are filled with murder.
I mean, fine, if you and others want to boycott every business that doesn't have the same moral convictions that you have... well more power to you... and a million moms, and the moral majority and whatever other tiny group that wants to boycott everything! I don't care about who does what with their money, as long as they aren't forcing ME to donate MY money where I don't want to... and once I give that business the money in exchange for whatever it's selling, it's no longer my money and they could do with it what they want. When I don't agree with them, I stop going there. No big deal.
All you have proven is that humans fail. I am sure I can site some very nasty things done by homosexuals. However, that speaks to the person and not the morals.
Wrong. The evidence suggests that homosexuals "fail" at about the same rate as (if not LESS OFTEN than) heterosexuals, in both marriage and parenting. Curiously, evidence to the contrary is lacking. Therefore, there is no justification for being pro-heterosexual marriage/parenting and anti-gay marriage/parenting.
And then you have people who want to blame it all on "God" or their religion. The fact is, the bible does not say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt. Only in regards to the verse where it says to kill them can a person claim the bible says that. And then the question becomes, "What about all the other people the bible says to kill?" Where is the opposition to people of different faiths getting married, for example? Nowhere. You know why? Because the want to keep gays from getting married or adopting is a personal prejudice against gays in particular. It cannot be defended using evidence, and it cannot be defended using religion.
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Maybe you can not dislike action without disliking the person but I can.
And what have I said or done that makes you think I dislike the people rather than their actions?
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I believe that God created us to be sexual in a male and female fashion. That design implies to me that God's intent is for a male and female sexual relationship. Anything outside that intent is immoral.
The bible calls many things wrong. And yet, all the people who do these other things have all the rights enjoyed by anyone following the bible... except gays. Don't you find that just a little transparent?
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I have stated my position. We can disagree but we don't have to hate each other over it.
And we don't have to discriminate against gays either.
actually I've never seen anything about that on the news
Right.
The million mom boycotts have been actively ignored. THere wasn't a big issue over Ellen Degeneras being the spokeswoman of JC Penny.
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A boycott is the fault of a business, not the consumer, as it is the business that put itself in the position that made a boycott possible.
I'll copy and paste it for ya...
