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Old 08-01-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Where is that good job that pays well and offers good health insurance?
They're all around you. What experience or education do you have for more than MW ? Most people earn what they're worth.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:04 PM
 
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Ask CalPERS.

Put the blame where it belongs.
I wish you would. Whose job is it to manage these funds IAW who they are intended to serve? Who and what has been obstructing shareholder influence on the board room? Do your homework.

When authority is bestowed, the responsibility should too. Corporate baffling separating the two is the problem, and still, you continue denying that corporate suits are accountable for anything at all they are doing or inflicting on anyone for any reason. You've posted this point, what-- 5 times now? And you're still spinning mis-directed blame at the behest of the very same think tanks peddling demented paradigms to portfolio managers? The circular logic you're operating isn't ever going to let you see the root of the problem. As it was designed to do by think tanks.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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jojajn
Corporate greed and the government go hand in hand. Corporations with their campaign donations buy politicians like our President for example. Its a pea game going on. Some of our wealthiest reps are democrats and not by accident.
Our economic collapse is lead by our government and our corrupted elected reps. Corporations can only do what the law allows. Who writes our laws?
My point is that regardless of party it is our career politicians who have brought this upon us. We have a massive debt that is growing by the second. Where are the talks for meaningful cuts? Why can't they find compromise? Both sides are using the same tricks. Because they obey their masters. here is a hint.
We the people are not the masters.
Who is against a 28th amendment? Dems? Indies? Who?
Corporation and State


Separation of Corporation and State: The 28th Amendment - YouTube
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Whose job is it to manage these funds IAW who they are intended to serve?
Whoever demands the pensions.
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Who and what has been obstructing shareholder influence on the board room?
No one. The shareholders elect the Board of Directors. The Board of Directors negotiates the CEOs' contracts. The pension funds are the major shareholders. They're DEMANDING corporate profitability. ...to pay the PENSIONS.
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Do your homework.
Do YOUR homework.
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:01 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Although there is a gain of income in America, this increase is obviously not going to the 99%. Consumer spending is down which is obviously due to the majority of Americans facing reduced buying power.


Consumer Spending in U.S. Was Unchanged in June - Businessweek


Whose income is increasing? The 1% of course!


Outrageous Example Of Corporate Greed From Caterpillar - YouTube

goverment and incompetance will be the downfall of the USA. just look at all the presidents since woodrow wilson.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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The actions of all corporations can not be defended as good like the actions of all on welfare can not be defended as good.
Yes. It's the job of corporations to make as much money for their stockholders as possible. If they can sell a product that is shoddy or with crappy ingredients that cost less, that's fine. Look at the dangerous stuff that comes out of China, where the government seems not to inspect products or even react until some scandal hits the newspaper.

To avoid poisoning us, our pets, and our kids, we regulate business. We try to assure that at least their output is safe for people. We don't always succeed, but they really need to be monitored and watched.

Our problem is the monitors are government agencies and government is obviously bending to the pressure of money from these corporations. The solution is to somehow make government legislature and agencies accountable to us and not corporations, the Supreme Court has even made this situation worse.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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It's simply amazing to me the number of Americans who cry about corporate greed and yet they are advocates for illegal aliens. Why would they want these greedy corporations to retain their illegal slave labor which feeds their greed?
Yes. People with degrees cannot get jobs. 'Experts' are forecasting another crash due to defaults on student loans. Pretty soon fewer and fewer people will be able to afford college. These kids will be looking for jobs. If the illegals were gone there would be jobs for them, jobs whose wages would probably rise to enable these people to maintain some self respect.

I am generally liberal, but endorse very very stiff penalties for those who hire or house illegals. That is not just Latin Americans, but Polish and Irish and every other person who is here illegally.

Both parties promote these predators who suck the well being from our people.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Although there is a gain of income in America, this increase is obviously not going to the 99%. Consumer spending is down which is obviously due to the majority of Americans facing reduced buying power.


Consumer Spending in U.S. Was Unchanged in June - Businessweek


Whose income is increasing? The 1% of course!


Outrageous Example Of Corporate Greed From Caterpillar - YouTube
I'm far less concerned with corporate greed than I am the unrestricted power being consolidated into the office of the presidency. This isn't what the founders had intended.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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Ah yes, buy your influence endorced yet again. What if those 99% invested their money, made it grow, started business, created jobs instead of looking to government for handouts and solutions is doesn't have and couldn't successfully institute if it did.
Ah, but there's where you are wrong, as the majority of the 99% are those whose carcasses are being picked dry by both the corporatations and the government.

The middle class sustains society and it is being diminished by the lack of jobs. Both the government and the corporations are responsible for that little trick by importing foreign workers to keep salaries down, outsourcing, and encouraging illegals. There is also the huge problem of the compensation inequity of top managers of corporations and their average worker. There is not a practicable check on that.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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Government overspending/attacking small business owners is stopping our economy in its tracks and this is all on obama and his merry men......
It is the mega corporations, the internationals, that have no allegiance to this country, who are hurting us, not the small business owner that is the creator of most of the jobs in this country.
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