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Old 08-01-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Pull the military out, and close all over seas bases.

That'll be a good starting point for "cutting" defense.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Pull the military out, and close all over seas bases.

That'll be a good starting point for "cutting" defense.
Than you really will have a depression. Where are all them new veterans going to go exactly?
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The laws you pass today, could bite you in the ass tomorrow!

The guy the called the chosen one, is a complete fraud.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Than you really will have a depression. Where are all them new veterans going to go exactly?


Ask IKE how he did it?

When did the great depression really end?
Not under Truman.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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The laws you pass today, could bite you in the ass tomorrow!

The guy the called the chosen one, is a complete fraud.

EPIC post!
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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Ask IKE how he did it?

When did the great depression really end?
Not under Truman.
The Great Depression ended well before 1953, friend.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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The truth be told ... the "administration" intends to comply with the WARN Act ... because of the Congressional approved doomsday spending cuts. This is a Congressional action, not Presidential. But the federal government, which the Preisident manages, will make the notifications in accordance with applicable law.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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Oh no! Jimmy Inhofe quoted on a right wing blog-rag. It must be iron clad FACT!!!

My GOD people. Just read... and, if possible, think...

"He noted that if the automatic budget cuts kick in on Jan. 2 -- as they will if Congress can't reach a deficit-reduction agreement -- layoff notices would have to go out no later than Nov. 2. The general election is on Nov. 6."

Why would private sector pink slips have to go out 60 days before 'possible' public sector budget cuts? Budget cuts that congress could easily avoid. Budget cuts that wouldn't likely have an impact for months after they were instituted. That is unless they're so incompetent as to live handout to handout...
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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Are you talking about this WARN act from 1988?

Or the FOREWARN act in 2009 that went no where?

Because the WARN act doesn't cover public employees.
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In general, employers are covered by WARN if they have 100 or more employees, not counting employees who have worked less than 6 months in the last 12 months and not counting employees who work an average of less than 20 hours a week. Private, for-profit employers and private, nonprofit employers are covered, as are public and quasi-public entities which operate in a commercial context and are separately organized from the regular government. Regular Federal, State, and local government entities which provide public services are not covered.
But it does cover DOD contracts, which is why the Department of Labor issued the following in their notice.

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The WARN Act and regulations also recognize that there may be situations in which an
employer cannot give 60 days advance notice. The Act lists three situations in which notice ma
be given fewer than 60 days before a plant closing or mass layoff will occur. These exceptions
are referred to as the faltering company, unforeseeable business circumstances, and natural
disaster exceptions. 29 U.S.C. 2102(b). Of these three exceptions, the unforeseeable business
circumstances exception is the one that would apply to plant closings or mass layoffs occurring
before or in the wake of the potential sequestration on January 2,. The unforeseeable business
circumstances exception occurs when “the closing or mass layoff is caused by business
circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable as of the time that notice would have been
required.”
29 U.S.C. 2102(b)(2).
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Than you really will have a depression. Where are all them new veterans going to go exactly?
No we wont.

We spend money on overseas wars and military operations.

That money doesn't help us at home. Our military spending has increased every year for the last 12. Our European allies lowered their defense spending every year during the same time period.

Cut defense spending over seas just ends a form of foreign aid for Europe. Do you think they'll continue to lower their defense spending? No. They'll buy from us.

Also, building roads at home creates a lot more jobs at home then defense spending in Japan and Europe.

We account for 43% of all world wide military spending, just the united states. Number 2 is China at 8%.

Out of the top 7 military spending countries we are close allies with 5 of them. We account, with our close allies, for nearly 75% of all world wide military spending.

We can afford defense cuts. Quit giving Europe free military protection. We have problems at home.
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