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Which country issued the passport Obama traveled on when he returned to the U.S. from Indonesia by himself as a child?
This, like every other issue, has been covered to death but to recap.
The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.
A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.
Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.
However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.
Information on losing foreign citizenship can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. citizenship in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad.
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F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.
there is no evidence that lolo adopted obama. even if he had it still wouldn't have affected his citizenship. indonesian law only allows citizenship to adopted children under the age of 5, does not allow for dual citizenship in such cases and the US does not allow a third party to renounce a minor's US citizenship.
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And Obama's Indonesian school record lists his nationality (warga negara) as Indonesian.
yes it does, in direct conflict with both US and indonesian law.
Why not? He was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Obama and his younger sister are referenced in the Soetoro divorce decree.
For the 50 millionth time, it doesn't matter what Obama's Indonesian citizen status may have been, a minor child CANNOT have his U.S. citizenship renounced by his parents or anyone else, and it would be a cold day in hell before a U.S. Consulate would be convinced by a fourth grader that "he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation,". Not to mention that Obama has never renounced his citizenship. Something that would be incredibly easy to establish.
And only recently in 2006 did the Indonesian Parliament pass new legislation allowing children under age 18 to hold foreign as well as Indonesian citizenship.
Obama is referenced as a child of both parties in the Soetoro divorce decree.
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even if he had it still wouldn't have affected his citizenship. indonesian law only allows citizenship to adopted children under the age of 5, does not allow for dual citizenship in such cases and the US does not allow a third party to renounce a minor's US citizenship.
Soetoro and Dunham married in Hawaii in 1965. Obama would have been 4 years old, at most.
For the 50 millionth time, it doesn't matter what Obama's Indonesian citizen status may have been, a minor child CANNOT have his U.S. citizenship renounced by his parents or anyone else
Different story if Obama renewed his Indonesian passport after the age of 18. That would have required an oath to Indonesia, which is sufficient to lose U.S. citizenship (assuming Obama ever was a U.S. citizen).
No, they can't. But if Obama renewed his Indonesian passport after he reached the age of 18, .....
how could he have renewed an indonesian passport at 18 when indonesia law doesn't allow submission of a citizenship application till 18?
do you believe he had an indonesian passport without being an indonesian citizen?
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