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Old 08-10-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: WA
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It's true, people: if our country were a business, it would've been forced into delcaration of bankruptcy a long time ago. Call me a "doomsayer," but I truly believe that financial default is coming--it's far from easy to estimate when, but shouldn't it be done right now, with the satisfaction of doing so on our own terms?

Or should we simply allow our debt-ceiling to accomodate an additional 1-2 trillion dollars that will further indebt our government (and, most importantly, the American people) to its favorite private lender(s)?

And think about it: default truly was, in retrosepct, a saving grace for Iceland--perhaps it would be for our country as well.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:49 PM
 
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Might as well -- we'll never pay it.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:50 PM
 
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America will be printing money like Brazil printed Cruzados.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Again: should the U.S. default on its debt?

Do you want a billion chinese customer service reps calling you day and night asking where the payment is? Do you think they'd understand.... Call USPS
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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Hmm.... Let me think.

No.

We still have more revenue incoming than debt payments outgoing. The debt problem can be tackled if we tried.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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Tired of being a superpower - a major power, even?
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:16 AM
 
Location: WA
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Again: should the U.S. default on its debt?

Do you want a billion chinese customer service reps calling you day and night asking where the payment is? Do you think they'd understand.... Call USPS
I don't know... if Chinese "reps" were calling me on a daily and nightly basis, I would probably remind them that prior to U.S. debt default, the Chinese government actually owed the U.S. nearly the exact same monetary figure as their government's U.S. debt holdings.

I think that China and the U.S. would have to call themselves even.

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Hmm.... Let me think.

No.

We still have more revenue incoming than debt payments outgoing. The debt problem can be tackled if we tried.
So what is it that we need then? European-style austerity followed, perhaps, by entitlement reform?

I see no way to pay back these debts without screwing the tax-payers, who, in the mind of any reasonable person, should not be held responsible for their government's destructive financial behavior/relationships.

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Tired of being a superpower - a major power, even?
I'm tired of living in a superpower too, Dane. While I do want a powerful country, I don't want an empire with horrendously self-destructive military, economic, political and financial tendencies.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:43 AM
 
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Too bad it wasnt as easy as some peoples debt where maybe its time to downsize the 5000Sqft house,Sell the Vette,the Bass boat,his and hers Harleys, the motor home,etc
Defaulting on a debt usually carries some very negative repercussions,i'd only consider it as an absolutely last resort and although many claim America is in Dire straits its nowhere near needing to default on its debt,there is much the country can do to contribute to paying down that debt.

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Old 08-11-2012, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Sure .. Why not?

Maybe then we can get back to electing people to office that really give a s*it .. I mean, we can only take so many more of these Dancing With The Stars popularity contests that we these days call Elections.
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