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Old 08-13-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I'd rather have THIS Holder as Attorney General (ha ha ha haaah!)


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Old 08-13-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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I am on a mission to civilize. That requires a complete submission to reality. In this case I have no choice but to be on the side of the law.


Assumes facts not in evidence.


How wonderful for you. Your salute is unlikely to magically transform political theater into anything judicially tangible.
There is still hope for you. Being a democrat, you have no place to go but up...
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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There is still hope for you. Being a democrat, you have no place to go but up...
As we used to say in Ranger School, "Nice attack, wrong hill."

I am not and never have been a Democrat.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Question Darrell Issa to Sue Eric Holder Monday

What happened to those June charges?

Did Issa fizzle?

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Old 08-13-2012, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The criminal contempt citation having fizzled completely, Issa is desperate to snag another 15 minutes of attention for this partisan political theater. The elephant hath labored mightily and delivered unto us a mouse.
The obvious thing involved here is that our courts move very slowly and Holder only has just over 5 1/2 months left in office. It is a shame that we can't get him but he will outlast the system this time.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Sadly, you are almost certainly in error. The precedent set here is probably the case Cheney v US, in 2004. That was a very similar civil suit that claimed the energy task force chaired by Dick Cheney violated the federal advisory committee Act by holding secret meetings. The plaintiffs received a discovery order, and the defendants sought a writ of mandamus to stop enforcement. The Court of Appeals denied the writ and SCOTUS (IIRC) remanded after considering the difference between civil and criminal suits and the importance of separation of powers. If Issa was looking for records related to a criminal prosecution he might have a chance under United States v. Nixon.

But since this is a civil proceeding, the judicial branch is likely to find it a nonjudiciable political question.

I didn't know that Obama appointees had taken over the entire judiciary. Hmmmm.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The obvious thing involved here is that our courts move very slowly and Holder only has just over 5 1/2 months left in office. It is a shame that we can't get him but he will outlast the system this time.
Your just a glass-half-full kind of guy! Aren't you?

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Old 08-13-2012, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Your just a glass-half-full kind of guy! Aren't you?

What is in the glass you have emptied to that half-full status?
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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The obvious thing involved here is that our courts move very slowly and Holder only has just over 5 1/2 months left in office. It is a shame that we can't get him but he will outlast the system this time.
Four years and 5 1/2 months................
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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The criminal contempt citation having fizzled completely, Issa is desperate to snag another 15 minutes of attention for this partisan political theater. The elephant hath labored mightily and delivered unto us a mouse.
When Bush tried this he lost in court. Holder will lose here.
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