Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-21-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,882 posts, read 33,297,481 times
Reputation: 4269

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
Why can't you left winger admit that there will be people, part of the insurance and hospital industries, who will be making decisions as to who will get treatment and who will not - the "death panels"?

Why?
There is a major death panel provided for that consists of 15 people, all appointed, who will make major decisions that will determine who can and who can't get medical attention if they are older than a certain age.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-21-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,882 posts, read 33,297,481 times
Reputation: 4269
Quote:
Originally Posted by ottomobeale View Post
Who has the worst health overall? Geezers.
Who has the highest health care per person on average? Geezers.
Who just cost the government most money in general? Geezers.
What group ACTUALLY HAS GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE? GEEZERS!

Yet we dont have death panels for them.

If you REAAALLLY wanna stretch definitions.... What group actually HAS a form of death panels? Anyone using private insurance who wont pay for that because of caps or it is "experimental"
Who in the new 30 million pays taxes? All geezers over 65 collect Social Security after their Medicare payments have been deducted.

We do pay and I have been paying Medicare since the damned thing started in 1965 when I was 32. I guess to you that is geezer age.

Since you have never dealt with the state Medicare groups you don't understand that they are already death panels for all we of the geezer age.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2012, 10:26 PM
 
48,502 posts, read 96,909,608 times
Reputation: 18305
Quote:
Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
How can that be, some will ask. Well after it was passed the SEIU and AFSCME handed millions to Obama to use for whatever reason. The jobs that will be created under the wonder law will eventually be nothing but that many more public sector unions and the CBO has said it will be 21 million. Count all the nurses, aides, and those who enforce the law and so on and it sounds about right to me.

Obamacare: Get Ready For 21 Million Unionized Health Care Workers : Freedom Outpost
Sounds likie they gave the money tot he wrong perosn ebcause the Fedewral governamnt will mianly rely on the states to setup and ru the pools.I doubt we will see alot of added medical people except for nurse practioners subsituted for doctor for alot of care in adjustment medical treat do to adjust for lower payments comig in programs like medciare and mediaid.Millions would buy mucy anyway when your talkig about a federal progra. remmeber it was 500 billion that was cut from medicare just to get mionor part started.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2012, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
30,976 posts, read 21,662,160 times
Reputation: 9676
Quote:
Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
How can that be, some will ask. Well after it was passed the SEIU and AFSCME handed millions to Obama to use for whatever reason. The jobs that will be created under the wonder law will eventually be nothing but that many more public sector unions and the CBO has said it will be 21 million. Count all the nurses, aides, and those who enforce the law and so on and it sounds about right to me.

Obamacare: Get Ready For 21 Million Unionized Health Care Workers : Freedom Outpost
Thanks. So now we know the real reason why Republicans want to ban ObamaCare, considering how deep and heartfelt their hatred and resentment is against labor unions.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2012, 03:55 AM
 
4,255 posts, read 3,482,769 times
Reputation: 992
it dosnt take 21 million people to take care of 30 million who may at some point in their lives need a dr.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2012, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
8,732 posts, read 6,787,873 times
Reputation: 2375
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
Why not 21 Million jobs? Why does it have to be "Union" jobs?
There will be only one union and one boss and that would be Government.

I don't understand how people can't see the direction Obama is taking this country.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2012, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
76,971 posts, read 47,682,616 times
Reputation: 14806
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
Why not 21 Million jobs? Why does it have to be "Union" jobs?
I wish the author had made an attempt to explain it, but he/she simply stated that it will be so. I guess we are supposed to be like the OP and think that is she says so, then it must be so.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2012, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
8,732 posts, read 6,787,873 times
Reputation: 2375
Quote:
Originally Posted by waterboy7375 View Post
it dosnt take 21 million people to take care of 30 million who may at some point in their lives need a dr.
The demand for health care in the future is going to be huge.

Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
Born: 1946-1954
Coming of Age: 1963-1972
Age in 2004: 50-58
Current Population: 33 million

Boomers II or Generation Jones
Born: 1955-1965
Coming of Age: 1973-1983
Age in 2004: 39 to 49
Current Population: 49 million


Generation X
Born: 1966-1976
Coming of Age: 1988-1994
Age in 2004: 28 to 38
Current Population: 41 million


Generation Y, Echo Boomers or Millenniums
Born: 1977-1994
Coming of Age: 1998-2006
Age in 2004: 10 to 22
Current Population: 71 million


Generations X,Y, Z and the Others...Social Librarian Newsletter - WJ Schroer Company
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2012, 05:18 AM
 
4,255 posts, read 3,482,769 times
Reputation: 992
Dosnt matter still not going to need an additional 21 million.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2012, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
13,887 posts, read 13,683,872 times
Reputation: 9174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Think4Yourself View Post
Do you right wingers ever get tired of inventing complete lies? This is no more true than your "death panels" claim but you folks continue to fall for one whopper after another. What does that say about your intelligence and lack of knowledge?
If you don't understand that the 'death panel' indeed was in OCare, you're probably not qualified to vote.

It was there.

Sarah was right.

Deal with it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by softblueyz View Post
There will be only one union and one boss and that would be Government.

I don't understand how people can't see the direction Obama is taking this country.
Those would be people who have never been taught to think for themselves or take personal responsibility. Without the government, they can't function.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top