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Old 08-31-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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How dare the president campaign for cleaner air! How shameful of him to want our kids to be able to breath! Why that radical socialist commie pinko might even try to outlaw child labor at some point!



More dependence on Saudi oil I say! More asthma I think! If inefficient cars were good enough for Jesus they are certainly good enough for me!

 
Old 08-31-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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According to the OP's link:
I know some of you don't like this but the President is the head of the Executive branch and has the right to direct Executive departments.

ARTICLE I, SECTION 1:
The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

I don't see anything contrary to law here.
If the president has the right to direct every cabinet dept. to do anything he wants I guess we don't need congress. We don't need a budget from them either! Nothing contrary here? And nothing wrong with the cabinet heads making policy either, like forcing the Catholic Church to provide contraceptives.
You do know that there were only four cabinet depts when the constitution was written. The additional cabinet depts. is one of the biggest reasons we have so much debt that will destroy us.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Unlike these radical liberals around here, I also would like more poisons in my food and in the environment for my children to play in.

Bad for people, good for JOBS.
Like we don't have enough regulations to protect the air and water? And the dept of Agriculture checks like .1% of food. mmmm Now I feel safe.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Undertakers need jobs too!
I don't think the government is doing enough to protect us if there are still people dying.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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If the president has the right to direct every cabinet dept. to do anything he wants I guess we don't need congress. We don't need a budget from them either! Nothing contrary here? And nothing wrong with the cabinet heads making policy either, like forcing the Catholic Church to provide contraceptives.
You do know that there were only four cabinet depts when the constitution was written. The additional cabinet depts. is one of the biggest reasons we have so much debt that will destroy us.
Your assertion is unfounded.

It is within the President's power to direct departments to coordinate their policies to encourage investment in industrial efficiency.

Let's face it, you don't want the President to have any power to do anything because you hate President Obama. If the president was Romney, you'd have a 180 degree about face.

But what is hypocritical is we just witnessed a convention where the GOP made relentless accusations that Obama hasn't done anything, but as soon as he tries, people like you say he doesn't have the authority.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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How dare the president campaign for cleaner air! How shameful of him to want our kids to be able to breath! Why that radical socialist commie pinko might even try to outlaw child labor at some point!



More dependence on Saudi oil I say! More asthma I think! If inefficient cars were good enough for Jesus they are certainly good enough for me!
No he is not campaigning for anything. He is dictating what kind of car everyone must drive. That is not freedom. PS I am breathing just fine, the kids are too.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Your assertion is unfounded.

It is within the President's power to direct departments to coordinate their policies to encourage investment in industrial efficiency.

Let's face it, you don't want the President to have any power to do anything because you hate President Obama. If the president was Romney, you'd have a 180 degree about face.

But what is hypocritical is we just witnessed a convention where the GOP made relentless accusations that Obama hasn't done anything, but as soon as he tries, people like you say he doesn't have the authority.
Both democrat and republican presidents have added cabinet depts. The size and scope of government is out of control. It needs to be cut down to size. I don't need the government telling me what to eat, what toilet paper to use, what light bulbs to buy, what kind of car I can drive, what healthcare decisions I can make. Do you people realize you are giving up your freedom a little at a time.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 07:02 PM
 
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No he is not campaigning for anything. He is dictating what kind of car everyone must drive. That is not freedom. PS I am breathing just fine, the kids are too.
He has that right. Get over it. You don't have an inherent right to pollute. Freedom is not an absolute. You can't poop in the water supply. You can't walk around naked in public. You can't built a plutonium plant in your backyard. And if the president of the United States states that you have to buy cars that adhere to certain environmental standards you will have to buy cars that meet those standards.

I love this initiative. It's one of the few Obama's shown any guts on. Why do you conservatives hate clean air and water so much anyway?



Or labor under the delusion that jobs and a pleasant planet are impossible together?
 
Old 08-31-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Your assertion is unfounded.

It is within the President's power to direct departments to coordinate their policies to encourage investment in industrial efficiency.

Let's face it, you don't want the President to have any power to do anything because you hate President Obama. If the president was Romney, you'd have a 180 degree about face.

But what is hypocritical is we just witnessed a convention where the GOP made relentless accusations that Obama hasn't done anything, but as soon as he tries, people like you say he doesn't have the authority.
You are kidding right. Mandating requirements in not encouraging, it is dictating.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Actually every vehicle should be getting over 40+ miles to the gallon, even the big ones riko want to drive....my guess is riko doesn't understand what the word "dictator" means, or he is still upset over the government taking lead out of gas.
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