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Old 09-05-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Metairie, La.
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If they should take control of the Congress and re-elect Obama, who knows what kind of laws they might pass. Do you remember Stimulus and Obamacare? No Republican votes, well a few on Obamacare, but very few. Then The One talks about bi-partisan laws and neither of those was debate on the floors or the committees which is called for in the Constitution. I really do wonder what might happen if that happens again.
So in other words you're saying there really is no connection between the DNC's lack of God in their platform and avoiding mentioning God in their speeches and you and your neighbors ability to discuss politics and religion.

As for what might happen...those possibilties are unlimited. What if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow or set today?

Being serious now--I don't think you have anything to worry about. Regardless of which party wins the presidential race and the various congressional races, I think for the most part, you and your neighbors will continue to discuss whatever it is you want to discuss. In other words, I don't think much will change with the outcome of this year's elections.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Because, in so many ways, this is a cool country to live in.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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That was really a nice video that I think everyone can agree with.

But the opening post from roysoldboy was a INSULT to anyone who has ever had to live in real fear of a dictatorship.

My mother and her family fled Europe in 1939 when the family down the street disappeared one night and Goering's brother decided to confiscate their home in Czechoslovakia.

I lived in northern Germany when the wall came down and had co-workers who escaped from East Germany with only the clothes on their backs - including a married couple who swam the Elbe on their Wedding Day.

I was one of the first westerners to take a job in what then became former East Germany and heard first hand some of the accounts of what East German citizens went through.

And I visited the Stasi museum in Leipzig where articles that the Stasi had collected, including things like "smell samples" and letters written by little children to popular game show hosts from West German TV had been intercepted.

So please, whine all you want about your irrational fears of no longer being able to say "Merry Christmas" or even "God Bless You" after someone sneezes. But know this: many of us have a better understanding of what a dictatorship really is and how pitiful these whiny rants from RWNJs are.

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Old 09-05-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Separation of church and state is nothing new. Infact it predates the flag.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,

Where in those words do you see anything about separation of church and state. The word separation has been inserted as being there but it sure isn't. You do know the leading line of the 1st Amendment, I hope.

I wonder what Betsy Ross and George Washington would have to say if they saw your words about predating? The flag originated during the Revolution and I think that the word separation got inserted in the Amendment's meaning nearer the beginning of the progressive ere about the beginning of the 20th century.

BTW, do you ever notice the words in the Amendment about prohibiting the free exercise thereof? It seems that many people, these days, have come to ignore those words. Is this kind of thinking a bit of the desire to just do away with parts of the Constitution without formal amendment?
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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People will increasingly be turned away from the GOP platform because it includes god as time goes by.

They'll drop it eventually, to try and attract more people. Why do you think the Democrats did it? It's all about appealing to groups of people.



The GOP invented the modern stimulus.



I know that. I meant is it's used less by politicians. A party platform is not directly government, but it's about seeing how that party would govern. If they use the word god in their platform, then some question if they understand the separation of church and state.
Invention of the stimulus has very little to do with the nearly $1 trillion stimulus that the Democrat controlled Congress passed in 2009 with no GOP votes.

I can make all kinds of claims like that one about Dems but when they are responsible, the invention, means nothing to anyone who isn't trying to defend the damned failure.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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You just quoted where it separates church and state.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
Basically, congress shall ignore religion.

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or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
While at the same time, they will not say you cannot exercise it.


Congress cannot incorporate religion, or tell you that you cannot practice it.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So in other words you're saying there really is no connection between the DNC's lack of God in their platform and avoiding mentioning God in their speeches and you and your neighbors ability to discuss politics and religion.

As for what might happen...those possibilties are unlimited. What if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow or set today?

Being serious now--I don't think you have anything to worry about. Regardless of which party wins the presidential race and the various congressional races, I think for the most part, you and your neighbors will continue to discuss whatever it is you want to discuss. In other words, I don't think much will change with the outcome of this year's elections.
I guess you don't know how the government of Nazi Germany got children to report their parents so dissidents could be held back. All it took was a law and I am not so sure what might happen if the Dems get complete control this time. I am not really sure about what happens if the GOP wins all the power but I am pretty sure that it won't be as radical as if Obama gets all that power. He has already told us that his veto pen is all inked up for a GOP controlled Congress.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Because, in so many ways, this is a cool country to live in.
Well said, Dane.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Invention of the stimulus has very little to do with the nearly $1 trillion stimulus that the Democrat controlled Congress passed in 2009 with no GOP votes.

I can make all kinds of claims like that one about Dems but when they are responsible, the invention, means nothing to anyone who isn't trying to defend the damned failure.
Merely pointing out you being a hypocrite.

Otherwise, you would have left the Dems out of it and bashed stimulus in general. In the last economic meltdown, they were done before Obama took office as well.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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That was really a nice video that I think everyone can agree with.

But the opening post from roysoldboy was a INSULT to anyone who has ever had to live in real fear of a dictatorship.

My mother and her family fled Europe in 1939 when the family down the street disappeared one night and Goering's brother decided to confiscate their home in Czechoslovakia.

I lived in northern Germany when the wall came down and had co-workers who escaped from East Germany with only the clothes on their backs - including a married couple who swam the Elbe on their Wedding Day.

I was one of the first westerners to take a job in what then became former East Germany and heard first hand some of the accounts of what East German citizens went through.

And I visited the Stasi museum in Leipzig where articles that the Stasi had collected, including things like "smell samples" and letters written by little children to popular game show hosts from West German TV had been intercepted.

So please, whine all you want about your irrational fears of no longer being able to say "Merry Christmas" or even "God Bless You" after someone sneezes. But know this: many of us have a better understanding of what a dictatorship really is and how pitiful these whiny rants from RWNJs are.
I spent many months in Bavaria at a time when I was considered to be part of the Army of Occupation and heard many stories from the people who lived there then. I do know a lot more about that than many people because of that but I did not live there as you did. However, I am not sure how far this thing may go pretty quickly once it gets going good. Yes they are keeping God out of their party things to "buy" some votes but will it get worse?
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