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Old 09-11-2012, 04:08 AM
 
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Yawn


Here's the chart using just FEDERAL employees since that is what the discussion is about.
The way I'm looking at it if Krugman and knowledgeiskey want to credit Obama with the layoff of all these unionized employees at the state an local level let him take credit for it.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:11 AM
 
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God, then how come you missed it? How about looking at 2006 and on since those were Bushes last years instead of cherry picking numbers?
year Executive/ Uniformed military/ Legislative and judicial / total Fed employees
2006 2,637.. 1,432 .. 63.. 4,133
2007 2,636.. 1,427 .. 63 ..4,127
2008 2,692.. 1,450 .. 64.. 4,206
2009 2,774.. 1,591 .. 66.. 4,430
2010 2,776.. 1,602 .. 64.. 4,443


Total Government Employment Since 1962
I would think these guys and similiar get counted in spending. Doubt they would get counted as employees.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Citizens Against Gov waste seem to disagree with the OP. They give Paul high scores and Obama/ Biden very low scores when it comes to spending fed money. Allow me to post a fewlinks showing that Gov waste is alive and well.
17 Examples of Government Waste

The 100 Worst Cases of Government Waste in 2010,Can it be fixed?

2011 Pork Report uncovers $371 million in government waste | Beacon Center of Tennessee

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/6946d43b-bccf-4579-990e-15a763532b40.html
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:06 AM
 
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Paul Krugman had to school him just like he schooled his father, Ron Paul.

The government sector has shrunken.
Spending has climbed from $2.98T to $3.5T since Obama took office

Talking about clueless
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:10 AM
 
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Not surprising Mr. Krugman had to instruct Mr. Rand Paul. Delusion does not fall far from the tree and he is just a deluded as his dad, Mr. Ron Paul. Both do not have any real grasp on current economics or politics.
No surprise its a bunch of liberals who think government shrunk, despite spending growing 15% over the last 3 years..

You guys never seem to know anything but want us to take you seriously.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:16 AM
 
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Yawn

Here's the chart using just FEDERAL employees since that is what the discussion is about.
Thats not at all whats being discussed. Where did Krugman say employees was the discussion? He said it SHRUNK and shrinking cant take place without reducing expenditures.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thats not at all whats being discussed. Where did Krugman say employees was the discussion?
at the 53 second mark of the 1:16 video
statement:Are you arguing there are less Federal Employees under Obama than under Bush
answer: of course, that's a fact

then he talks about government employment growth

maybe you're talking about the overall show or overall big picture? dunno

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He said it SHRUNK and shrinking cant take place without reducing expenditures.
I agree with this statement but the exchange in the video that we are discussing is specifically talking about employment.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I would think these guys and similiar get counted in spending. Doubt they would get counted as employees.
List of United States defense contractors - Wikipedia, the free ...
Washington Technology 2011 Top 100 -- Washington Technology
And that's the point really. Federal government spending is the main issue.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I'd say obama is the one that is clueless. He's added, what, 5 trilion dolalrs to out debt?
errr ... $1.5 tril
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The bottom line is that without Federal Defense spending our industrial sector would have completely collapsed in the last decade. I do not object to the spending but I do object to the products. Besides without government and private debt we would not have any economy at all. If everybody had to pay cash there would be no cash to spend.
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