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Old 09-14-2012, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Race is made up from a biological standpoint. There truly is only one race human.

The idea of race was created by European slaveholders to justify the brutality of slavery and to define a slave as someone with "black skin".
From a biological standpoint "race" does not exist. There is only one species of humans.

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Old 09-15-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Yes, happy to.

It's this event where a bunch of people get together at a starting point and then try to move as fast and directly as possible to a pre-designated finish line. They may run or perhaps employ a variety of vehicles.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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What is all that black Irish talk about?!? I don't believe in races, but those people look like ordinary white people, not even obviously mixed like so many African-Americans or Hispanics. Hair color does not have anything to do with this discussion in my view. Just like here in Portugal or in Germany there are more Nordic looking and more Mediterranean looking whites in Ireland as well. Nobody would call the Portuguese or Spaniards black
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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What is all that black Irish talk about?!? I don't believe in races, but those people look like ordinary white people, not even obviously mixed like so many African-Americans or Hispanics. Hair color does not have anything to do with this discussion in my view. Just like here in Portugal or in Germany there are more Nordic looking and more Mediterranean looking whites in Ireland as well. Nobody would call the Portuguese or Spaniards black
I was pointing out the stupidity, and irrational classification of "race."

"Black Irish" (a.k.a. "Dark Irish") are not "mixed." They are ethnically Irish, with black or dark hair, with brown, blue, or green eyes, and a fair complexion. The only purpose of the term "race" is to create irrational visual (not biological) distinctions in order to further division and segregation. In short, "race" is only a term used by bigots.
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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Things exist if people think they do
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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It should be obvious. Liberals want to create an imaginary distinction in order to create division. Look at all the laws liberals have concocted solely based upon the ridiculous notion that somehow skin pigmentation makes a difference. Everything from Affirmative Action to Hate Crimes. Liberals have a vested interest in the fictitious term "race."
Of course, before, say, 1965, Americans never saw race, and we were all one big happy family here in Amerikkka........ask black folks in the South whether skin pigmentation made a difference.......what poppycock.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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From a biological standpoint "race" does not exist. There is only one species of humans.

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Maybe in your fantasy world, but not in the real-world. Biologists and anthropologists use the taxonomic ranking that I already specified, which does not include "race." Only ignorant bigots use the term "race."
Pukipedia?

Are you serious?

If and when you ever find skeletal remains, you'll be clueless, but due to biological and physiological differences between races there are certain things that the rest of us can easily know, just by looking at the skeleton....for about 30 seconds.....while it's still out in the woods or where ever the hell it might be.

You can distinguish between male and female.

You can determine approximate age. For female skeletal remains, you can often get an accurate age, simply because you can determine, by examining the skeleton for about 3 seconds whether or not the female ever gave birth.

You can also determine the skeleton's race. The skeletons of people who formerly had "white" skin (before it decomposed to nothing) look very different from the skeletons of people who formerly had "black" skin, and both of their skeletons look vastly different from the skeletons of people who formerly had "yellow" skin, and all three of them are readily distinguishable from skeletons that were formerly adorned in "red" skin, and all of them are different from many other skeletons, like those of various aboriginal peoples around the globe (eg Australian Aborigines, Ainu, Kalahari Bushmen, certain types of Bedouin, the Basques, etc etc etc and that doesn't even address certain Melanesian and Micronesian groups).

But you wouldn't know that, because you rely on Pukipedia, which is a source of nothingness.

You might be better served by hanging out at a morgue for a while. Perhaps you'd actually learn something.

Biologically and physiologically...

Mircea

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Had Mircea actually clicked on the link, he'd have discovered that the movie title I posted was produced by California Newsreel--a production company distinct from PBS.
And who bank-rolled it?

I'd have to believe the real Diogenes would be appalled that someone like you appropriated his name, because, you know, like he was a thinker.

Do you have any idea what the click-languages are?

Doesn't it strike you as odd that they're concentrated in only one small part of Earth, specifically to wit: southern Africa?

Do you understand Human Evolution in the current scheme, under the present paradigm?

Are you aware of, and do you understand the controversy over the FOXP2 gene?

Did you know that the FOXP2 gene controls speech?

Were you aware that up until about 14 years ago, thanks to narrow-minded people just like yourself, it was believed and taught in schools (meaning universities) that Homo Neanderthalensis could not speak?

Did you know that the paradigm was destroyed when skeletal remains of Homo Neanderthalensis were found with they hyoid bone intact?

I mention that because it was believed that Homo Neanderthalensis, like Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Heidelbergensis and others communicated by making clicking noises with their tongues.

Which brings us back to the region of southern Africa. Why do they speak making clicking noises? Well, you see, the real Diogenes, he would brain-storm and come up with some ideas, perhaps hypothesizing two basic theories:

1] The peoples in southern Africa are Homo Neanderthalensis,Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, or Homo Heidelbergensis who have survived into modern times; or

2] The peoples in southern Africa had repeated and continual contact through trade with a small band or group of Homo Neanderthalensis, Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, or Homo Heidelbergensis who survived into modern times and groups in southern Africa learned it from them as recent as a few thousand years ago.

Did it ever occur to you that what we believe to be the different breeds of men -- yeah, what some people call "race" --- are actually modern-day equivalents of Homo Neanderthalensis, Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Javenesis and Homo Sapiens?

No? Well, now you have something new to think about. The real Diogenes would be very proud of me, but very disappointed in you (and how ironic that he used the term breed/race, too).

You PC Pukes are no different than christians in my mind. You both hinder and block discovery of The Truth, not to mention you abhor The Truth, but that's because you can't handle The Truth, whatever The Truth might actually be.

Fortunately, you PC Pukes don't infect other countries where free-thinkers are allowed think unfettered and unencumbered, and collect evidence to find the true origin of peoples and how they came to populate this Earth.

There's only 4 horses on Earth, yet there's more than 100 breeds -- or races --- of horses. How many dogs were there? 3? And from those 3 dogs, there are more than 100 breeds -- or races -- of dogs. Strange how you admit that some breeds -- races -- of horses are better, more intelligent -- superior -- to other horses, and that some breeds -- races -- of dogs are more talented, more intelligent -- superior -- to other breeds of dogs.

And yet you are unwilling to admit that one breed -- race -- of men might be superior to another.

If that thought offends you, then take a spoon and pop your eyeballs out and then take an ice pick and pierce your ear-drums so that you can hide from The Truth.

Stranger still is the fact that you admit or recognize superiority in any number of things, be it animals, sports teams, musical groups and such. Just because something is superior, it does not logically follow that it is inherently bestowed with special rights and privileges, or that it is deserving of special rights and privileges.

So then how hypocritical is it to do exactly that --- grant special rights and privileges to those who are superior, because you do it every day, 24/7. You grant the rich, the powerful, your politicians, your athletes and your entertainers special rights and privileges.

What do you think Diogenes would say about your philosophy? He would say it sucks, if for no other reason than it is hypocritical and thus fatally flawed.

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And, Mircea, I didn't post it for you.
Wow, that's really sad, isn't it.

Amused...

Mircea
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Pukipedia?

Are you serious?

If and when you ever find skeletal remains, you'll be clueless, but due to biological and physiological differences between races there are certain things that the rest of us can easily know, just by looking at the skeleton....for about 30 seconds.....while it's still out in the woods or where ever the hell it might be.

You can distinguish between male and female.

You can determine approximate age. For female skeletal remains, you can often get an accurate age, simply because you can determine, by examining the skeleton for about 3 seconds whether or not the female ever gave birth.

You can also determine the skeleton's race. The skeletons of people who formerly had "white" skin (before it decomposed to nothing) look very different from the skeletons of people who formerly had "black" skin, and both of their skeletons look vastly different from the skeletons of people who formerly had "yellow" skin, and all three of them are readily distinguishable from skeletons that were formerly adorned in "red" skin, and all of them are different from many other skeletons, like those of various aboriginal peoples around the globe (eg Australian Aborigines, Ainu, Kalahari Bushmen, certain types of Bedouin, the Basques, etc etc etc and that doesn't even address certain Melanesian and Micronesian groups).

But you wouldn't know that, because you rely on Pukipedia, which is a source of nothingness.

You might be better served by hanging out at a morgue for a while. Perhaps you'd actually learn something.

Biologically and physiologically...

Mircea



And who bank-rolled it?

I'd have to believe the real Diogenes would be appalled that someone like you appropriated his name, because, you know, like he was a thinker.

Do you have any idea what the click-languages are?

Doesn't it strike you as odd that they're concentrated in only one small part of Earth, specifically to wit: southern Africa?

Do you understand Human Evolution in the current scheme, under the present paradigm?

Are you aware of, and do you understand the controversy over the FOXP2 gene?

Did you know that the FOXP2 gene controls speech?

Were you aware that up until about 14 years ago, thanks to narrow-minded people just like yourself, it was believed and taught in schools (meaning universities) that Homo Neanderthalensis could not speak?

Did you know that the paradigm was destroyed when skeletal remains of Homo Neanderthalensis were found with they hyoid bone intact?

I mention that because it was believed that Homo Neanderthalensis, like Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Heidelbergensis and others communicated by making clicking noises with their tongues.

Which brings us back to the region of southern Africa. Why do they speak making clicking noises? Well, you see, the real Diogenes, he would brain-storm and come up with some ideas, perhaps hypothesizing two basic theories:

1] The peoples in southern Africa are Homo Neanderthalensis,Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, or Homo Heidelbergensis who have survived into modern times; or

2] The peoples in southern Africa had repeated and continual contact through trade with a small band or group of Homo Neanderthalensis, Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, or Homo Heidelbergensis who survived into modern times and groups in southern Africa learned it from them as recent as a few thousand years ago.

Did it ever occur to you that what we believe to be the different breeds of men -- yeah, what some people call "race" --- are actually modern-day equivalents of Homo Neanderthalensis, Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Javenesis and Homo Sapiens?

No? Well, now you have something new to think about. The real Diogenes would be very proud of me, but very disappointed in you (and how ironic that he used the term breed/race, too).

You PC Pukes are no different than christians in my mind. You both hinder and block discovery of The Truth, not to mention you abhor The Truth, but that's because you can't handle The Truth, whatever The Truth might actually be.

Fortunately, you PC Pukes don't infect other countries where free-thinkers are allowed think unfettered and unencumbered, and collect evidence to find the true origin of peoples and how they came to populate this Earth.

There's only 4 horses on Earth, yet there's more than 100 breeds -- or races --- of horses. How many dogs were there? 3? And from those 3 dogs, there are more than 100 breeds -- or races -- of dogs. Strange how you admit that some breeds -- races -- of horses are better, more intelligent -- superior -- to other horses, and that some breeds -- races -- of dogs are more talented, more intelligent -- superior -- to other breeds of dogs.

And yet you are unwilling to admit that one breed -- race -- of men might be superior to another.

If that thought offends you, then take a spoon and pop your eyeballs out and then take an ice pick and pierce your ear-drums so that you can hide from The Truth.

Stranger still is the fact that you admit or recognize superiority in any number of things, be it animals, sports teams, musical groups and such. Just because something is superior, it does not logically follow that it is inherently bestowed with special rights and privileges, or that it is deserving of special rights and privileges.

So then how hypocritical is it to do exactly that --- grant special rights and privileges to those who are superior, because you do it every day, 24/7. You grant the rich, the powerful, your politicians, your athletes and your entertainers special rights and privileges.

What do you think Diogenes would say about your philosophy? He would say it sucks, if for no other reason than it is hypocritical and thus fatally flawed.



Wow, that's really sad, isn't it.

Amused...

Mircea
So your point is b/c we've arbitrarily grouped people on one superficial characteristic, the fact that some of them share other superficial characteristics means our initial arbitrary choice was right? Lol... okay.

So how about that race of redheads w/ their pale skin, higher risks of skin cancer, and higher pain tolerance?
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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I have yet to find one. I think its something entirely made up.

What is race and what components does it classify?
I think it is perceived with a tribal mentality.
There are only three races in the world; Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasoid. The three races have somehow been broken down into sub groups.

Example, Hispanic. There is no Hispanic race they are Caucasoid like the other whites. Yet these folks seem for a while to feel some attachment to Italy, Mexico, Ireland or where ever they came from.

I am not a big fan of race, race baiting, race preferences or class warfare. All of that does nothing to bring anyone together and just drives wedges between us.

A curse should be placed on politicians who love to use race and class warfare in politics. It is like a cancer to the American people IMO.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:10 AM
 
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I don't think there is anything to that comparison between humans and breeds of dogs or horses. After all those animals were bred by humans with specific goals in mind, for instance some breeds were supposed to be good at hunting, at protecting, at interacting with humans, etc.

With humans there has not been any breeding for a purpose. There has only been a more or less isolated development here and there for some time, but still, every population in itself was a gene pool of different traits and properties, that were mixed and recombined with every new generation. All those humans had obstacles to overcome and challenges to master, thus to think and invent, to be creative and intelligent, etc.
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