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Old 09-15-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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With these guys there is no middle ground, only extremes, just like the people they condemn.

Personally, if you don't go out of my way to provoke anyone, especially someone aching for a fight, you are considered a pacifist. They don't understand that it's possible to want to be left alone, yet be willing to defend yourself when the opportunity strikes.

This type of reasoning is not limited to one area, it permeates many other areas. Whether it's abortion, "The war on terrorism" , illegal immigration, sex education, with these guys, it's either all or nothing and there is no middle ground, no gray area, only Black and White

Bush said it best, either you are with us or against us. Well I was and am against the Iraq war AND against radical Muslims. Sorry Bush, you are wrong, both you guys are full of crap.
The right can be extreme. The left can be extreme. Bush, however, was not extreme. He was just not competent to be president. He was probably about as in the middle as any president in recent history. Why do you think obama has held onto so many of Bushes policies?
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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In regards to Democrats having "anti-Christian" rhetoric, I don't consider this to be accurate. We are supposed to have separation of church and state. It's what allows all people to believe what they want without any one religious belief to rule the land. Just because someone doesn't want fundamentalism forced on them it does not mean they are un-Christian.

The other issue about the racist charge lies squarely at the so-called "Birther Movement." Does anyone really think this would have gone on for four years now if Obama was not a black man? I've felt insulted by it, and I'm a white person.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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Do you think Democrats are in touch with our Founding principles and Constitution?
Why not start your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one?
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:16 AM
 
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Somewhat humorous that you must go back 70 years to attempt to deflect on this issue. What is the equivalent of believing that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist? I certainly don't dispute there are wackos on the left, but the sheer number of ignorant, gullible fools on the right who believe any crazy yarn spun about Obama is genuinely frightening.
Not "deflecting". MANY "leftie" or "lib" arguments are extreme like amnesty in 2012 for illegal aliens.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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I'm not voting for Obama, he's failed in so many areas, so nice attempt at deflection.

Care to comment on the thread or will you continue to try to change the [domain blocked due to spam]??
Sav, you are wrong. Most on the right are inside right. Which traditionally is America in a nutshell. Most don't follow Pat Robinson or reverend Wright? Think about it. Quite a few people on the right care very much about the poor, probably attend some church of some doctrine, are fairly tolerant of those that differ, and have a patriotic vein.

They are anything but extreme. This president, is simply the most polarizing that I can ever recall. Nixon made a good run at it but, overall, people were even more to the right back then....or were they? They wanted the war to end and most folks left or right felt that way. This one has just been to far left and thus, the angst.

I thought Clinton brought on the most up to that point but, this one is a whole nutha' animal. You can't blame this on a co-president because that person does not exist. There is no way to logically dispute how much anxiety this one has brought on and race had nothing to do with it as whites carried him into office.

This is a mantle he built himself. Even the media could not provide enough cover. He has single handedly polarized America. No one likes to be attacked. Left or right. This is probably why you are feeling the need to weigh in with conviction. I often feel that way on the right. This severe line that has been drawn happened on his watch........

Clinton vs bush and perot? No. But, please remember, it was the inside right that gave Perot a record 20 percent of the vote (for the most part) for an independent....ron paul gets an honorable mention. That cost Bush I the election but the biggest tag line then was.....read my lips.....myopic compared to TODAY's comments, huh? Bush vs Kerry? Just some jokes but, a bit more extreme......Carter vs regan? Pretty easy sweep as Carter was by all measures, a disaster......this guy? Whoa! Domestic world war III....mortal combat....tea parties, evangelicals, muslims, the poor, the extreme left and right.....a true potpourri of humanity.....good or bad.....visceral comes to mind....

I would think all sides would crave to have a more benign campaign at this point....this one has been mentally and emotionally exhausting. However, the comments that the right are extreme is nonsense. Everyone is just way more demonstrative than usual. It will be interesting to see how things go after the election. The economy WILL directly correlate to the mood no matter who wins....
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Why not start your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one?
In the light of the hijacking of the entire Democratic Party by overgrown campus radicals during the years 1968-1980, I'd suggest that Mr. Bluesjake has at least as strong a point as yours.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: NJ
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yep the repubs are extreme if the reference point is the socialist democrat agenda which is so far to the left it is off the scale and requires that 'our history be rewritten' as per Michelle Obama.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Only the right are extreme ?
So if we get rid of political parties then we'll have no extremists ?
Liberals never see themselves as extreme, just like the insane don't think they're crazy. Have you ever heard a liberal describe anything in other than black/white terms?
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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Not "deflecting". MANY "leftie" or "lib" arguments are extreme like amnesty in 2012 for illegal aliens.


A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Did I mention Obama's and Pelosi's support for this group??
As a follower of Occupy Wall Street's Facebook page, I can tell you that they are not fans of Obam or the Democrats any more than thy are fans of the Republicans. I can also tell you that only a few of them engage in the behavior shown in those pictures. I would like to point out that I do not appreciate the fact that so many people arrogantly dismiss this group as a bunch of whiners and anarchists because of the behavior of a very small minority of them. They actually bring up some good points, and you would acknowledge that if you weren't so narrow-minded or prejudiced.
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