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Originally Posted by MMM05
Charles Krauthammer: The abandonment - The Washington Post
The abandonment
By Charles Krauthammer, Thursday, September 13, 6:07 PMThe Washington Post
There are two positions one can take regarding the Iranian nuclear program: (a) it doesn’t matter, we can deter them; or (b) it does matter, we must stop them.
In my view, the first position — that we can contain Iran as we did the Soviet Union — is totally wrong, a product of wishful thinking and misread history. But at least it’s internally coherent.
What is incoherent is President Obama’s position. He declares the Iranian program intolerable — “I do not have a policy of containment; I have a policy to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon” — yet stands by as Iran rapidly approaches nuclearization.
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Krauthammer is a Jew and a propaganda artist on the Mossad's payroll (among others).
His entire premise is fatally flawed, but then that's what happens when you do nothing but lie.
There are two positions one can take regarding the Iranian nuclear program: (a) it doesn’t matter, we can deter them; or (b) it does matter, we must stop them.
Right there is one of the many flaws. Krauthammer, who apparently hired a medium and conducted a seance to consult with NAZI propaganda artist Herr Josef Göbbels simply says "Iranian nuclear program."
There is nothing inherently evil about a nuclear program. Note that the Göbbels-worshiping Krauthammer doesn't say nuclear weapons program.....because Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.....as if Krauthammer actually knows anything about nuclear weapons or the nuclear weapons infrastructure.
But then note that Krauthammer deceitfully and deceptively, in the great tradition of NAZI Herr Josef Göbbels refuses to correctly refer to Iran's nuclear energy program.
The NAZI propagada-worshiper Krauthammer doesn't want to you know to the truth....that Iran's program is a nuclear energy program, and instead, he attempts to deceitfully mislead everyone by using the psy-ops warfare phrase -- "nuclear program."
In my view, the first position — that we can contain Iran as we did the Soviet Union — is totally wrong, a product of wishful thinking and misread history. But at least it’s internally coherent.
Krauthammer lies again here. For those who want to understand "containment" read the classic essay by the famed "Mr. X." What would be the point of "containing" a country with a brown-water navy and no aircraft carriers?
What is incoherent is President Obama’s position. He declares the Iranian program intolerable — “I do not have a policy of containment;...
But, of course! A nuclear energy program is tolerable. Why would anyone not tolerate desalinization plants on the Persian Gulf Coast? Why would anyone not tolerate irrigation projects leading to the Iranian Plateau? Why would anyone not tolerate the irrigation of the Iranian Plateau? Why would anyone not tolerate the massive agricultural production possible on the Iranian Plateau, which would permanently reduce Iran's perennial unemployment of 20% and turn Iran from a net-importer of food-stuffs to a net-exporter of food-stuffs, increasing the supply of food on the world market to everyone's benefit, even Americans?
Why would anyone not tolerate Iran shutting down their oil-fired and natural gas-fired electrical generation plants to halt CO2 emissions and increase the supply of oil and natural gas on the world market, which benefits everyone, even Americans?
What, you want Iran to build more oil-fired power plants to decrease the supply of oil even more so that prices go even higher and you can pay $6/gallon for gasoline? Oh, that's really smart.
I have a policy to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon” — yet stands by as Iran rapidly approaches nuclearization.
What exactly does Krauthammer mean by "
nuclearization?" Just like NAZI propaganda artist Herr Josef Göbbels, Krauthammer choose his vague, ambiguous words very carefully, knowing full well that his preying on people totally ignorant of all "things nuclear."
How does the operation of the dual-reactors at Bushwehr fit into Krauthammer's NAZI propaganda
"nuclearization?"
Is Krauthammer suggesting the operation of the reactors produces nuclear weapons? Because if he is, then he is a liar. You don't nuclear reactors to make nuclear warheads. More to the point, the IAEA has already stated that Iran is enriching uranium to 20% HEU, which is irrefutable proof that the nuclear reactors are for peaceful use, and not for producing plutonium, which wouldn't matter anyway since Iran has no means of separating plutonium.
And I'm still waiting for someone, anyone on this forum to tell me what kind of nuclear weapons Iran supposedly is producing.
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Originally Posted by MMM05
AGREED. Israel doen't need ANY HELP to do the job.
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Israel cannot attack Iran without extensive US help, including air, land and naval support, plus intelligence assets support.
You have no idea what you're talking about. They only thing you know how to do is regurgitate propaganda.
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Originally Posted by MMM05
I'll be surprised if Israel waits very much longer.  |
Then prepare to be surprised. There's a reason why I have 17,389 victories against ZERO losses destroying "attack Iran" threads.
Debunking....
Mircea
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24
So, what are they waiting for?
They're grown-ups aren't they? Able to make their own decisions and deal with the consequences?
Why do they keep whining about getting an answer they didn't like?
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What are they waiting for?
Israel is waiting for their god to alter the laws of physics.
If Yahweh fails to alter the laws of physics, then Israel cannot attack Iran without massive US military support, and that would require putting Americans in harm's way.
No US president with a modicum of intelligence would ever consider supporting Israel on such an operation.
Even if Iran actually would have a nuclear weapons program (they don't), there is absolutely nothing Israel or the US could do to stop it. There is no legal cause justify any military action, so any action taken by the US or Israel would be an act of war for which the Iranians could justifiably respond.
Realistically...
Mircea
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Originally Posted by Sco
I hate these Neocon warmongering scumbags.
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No, you don't.
You didn't hate them when they were on Clinton's White House Staff. And you didn't hate them when neo-con Tony Lake (former Clinton White House Staff Advisor) was advising Obama on foreign policy during the 2008 Election Campaign, and you don't have a problem with Obama having six neo-cons on his White House Staff.
When are you going to leave Fantasy Island and enter the world of reality?
The neo-cons own your bureaucracy. They always have since the days of FDR, when they were called Social Democrats. They were called Social Democrats up until 1974, when the neo-cons --- who were the architects of the Grotesque Society and Medicare and Medicaid and HUD Section 8 Housing and all of the other welfare programs they created -- realized they were total failures.
Elect any president you want from any political party or no political party at all.
It won't change the fact that neo-cons who are there now, who have been there for 10-40 years already will still be there running the bureaucracy, particularly the Alphabet Agencies and your State Department, after any temporary employee...ooops, I mean president...you elect is long gone.
Injecting reality...
Mircea
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