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Old 09-18-2012, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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I hate to admit it but I think Romney will probably lose the election. That of course means the libs will get 4 more years to work their tails off screwing up the economy. So...this begs the question...when does the economy become Obama's? We all know that one of Obamas key campaign strategies is placing blame on the bush administration for what he hasnt been able to do. How long is this ok with the left? Maybe the dnc can just incorporate it into their platform...
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It will be Obama's economy when the Republican Congress stops actively sabotaging it.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:03 PM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Romney winning this election would be like the 1980 winter Olympics,America taking on Russia in hockey!
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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So.....it will be Obama's when he has complete control? He got his stimulus...he got healthcare...he got Dodd frank.......what else?
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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So.....it will be Obama's when he has complete control?
It doesn't have to be complete. The Republicans simply need to stop deliberately making it worse.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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When housing recovers. No one can do miracles when a huge slab of middle class citizens are in the tank. Housing had to fall, and when it does it takes a while. We will finally reach bottom in 2013 or 2014, then recovery can begin. If our UE is 8% in 2015, you can blame that on Obama.

It is funny that the people so eager to pin this turd on Obama were never going to vote for him anyway. That agenda is pure opportunism at this point, by folks who really have no legitimate case. The GOP policies caused this recession, why in the name of common sense would anyone want more of that?

It is like to you go to a restaurant, get food poisoning, end up in the hospital and need to be fed through a tube for days, and when you start complaining about being bed ridden, a friend tells you it is the lousy hospital food and offers to take you out to eat at the same restaurant. Hell no!
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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By doing what? What else does he want? The major compromises I can recall is the debt ceiling debate. Isn't this the nature of a partisan system?
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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When housing recovers. No one can do miracles when a huge slab of middle class citizens are in the tank. Housing had to fall, and when it does it takes a while. We will finally reach bottom in 2013 or 2014, then recovery can begin. If our UE is 8% in 2015, you can blame that on Obama.

It is funny that the people so eager to pin this turd on Obama were never going to vote for him anyway. That agenda is pure opportunism at this point, by folks who really have no legitimate case. The GOP policies caused this recession, why in the name of common sense would anyone want more of that?

It is like to you go to a restaurant, get food poisoning, end up in the hospital and need to be fed through a tube for days, and when you start complaining about being bed ridden, a friend tells you it is the lousy hospital food and offers to take you out to eat at the same restaurant. Hell no!
How did the GOP cause the RECESSION? Attempt to be thorough...

I'm very curious to hear your take in this.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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By doing what? What else does he want? The major compromises I can recall is the debt ceiling debate. Isn't this the nature of a partisan system?
By actually considering even one of the many different bold compromises on the budget offered over the last year and a half.
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February 14, 2011: President Barack Obama submits budget for 2012 with about $2 trillion in deficit reduction, half of which come from spending cuts.

April 15, 2011: House passes Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, which includes $5.8 trillion in spending cuts along with tax cuts for the richest Americans.

May 5, 2011: Vice President Joe Biden begins debt talks.

May 11, 2011: Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) says he will not raise debt limit without spending cuts that match how much the limit is raised.

June 23, 2011: Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) walks away from debt ceiling talks with Biden after refusing to consider any tax increases. The administration had offered $2.4 trillion in spending cuts for $400 billion in taxes, an 83:17 split.

July 7, 2011: Obama and Boehner begin debt-ceiling negotiations.

July 9, 2011: Boehner walks away from Obama’s “grand bargain”: $4 trillion in debt reduction comprised of $1 trillion in revenue and $3 trillion in spending cuts, including entitlement reforms.

July 19, 2011: The Gang of Six proposes a $4 trillion deficit reduction plan, including $2 trillion in revenue.

July 22, 2011: Again, Boehner walks away from negotiations after Obama offers $1.2 trillion in revenues and $1.6 trillion in spending cuts, including entitlements.

July 31, 2011: Debt ceiling agreement is reached, cutting $1 trillion in spending immediately and establishing the super committee to reduce deficits by at least an additional $1.2 trillion.

October 26, 2011: Democrats first super committee offer is $3 trillion in deficit reduction comprised of about $1.3 trillion in revenues and $1.7 trillion in spending cuts, including cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. Republicans immediately reject it. Republicans’ first super committee offer is $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, which includes no new tax revenues.

November 8, 2011: Republicans’ second super committee offer is $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction. It does include $300 billion in new tax revenue, but in exchange for extending the Bush tax cuts and lowering the top tax rate. The plan would ultimately cut taxes for the wealthy and raise them for everyone else.

November 10, 2011: Democrats’ second offer is $2.3 trillion in deficit reduction, consisting of $1.3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in revenue. The revenue would be split between $350 billion in concrete measures and $650 billion in future tax reform. Republicans reject it.

November 11, 2011: Democrats agree to Republicans’ top lines including just $400 billion in revenues and $875 billion in spending cuts, but refuse to accept the GOP’s tax cut for the rich. Republicans reject it and make their final offer: $640 billion in spending cuts and $3 billion in revenues.
Republicans are now poised to sail us right over the fiscal cliff. It is insanity of the sort that only right wing nutburgers are capable,
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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How closely do you believe Obama considered Ryan's budget?

Let me pose this question...

What do you believe caused the recession? Was it Bush? What specifically caused the recession IYO?
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