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Rates of fatal occupational injury in 2007:
Total private industry: 4.3 cases per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers
Coal mining: 24.8 per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers
You're trying to compare a job like coal mining to pencil pushers? LOL
There is lot of dangerous jobs, you're more likely to die driving for living or working as a store clerk.
The environmentalist fanatical whack jobs with the help of this administration are destroying this country's ability to become energy independent....The End of America!!!
just another instance of where the people inthe concrete jungles are telling the flyover country people of what to do in their states since their state is already so messed up.
states the article. But lets go ahead and keep ignoring facts and blame the EVIL and ANTI-American EPA. Never mind that the EPA was created by a Republican, and cleaned up issues like this:
(Picture was taken at Noon in Donora, Pennsylvania, 1948)
I'm all for going back to acid rain. We don't have enough and wildlife and nature has been thriving WAY too much.
EPA doesn't improve anything. It is technology that improve everything.
Pollution is a by production of industrial revolution. It is same as when a baby poop and pee on their diapers. You just have to deal with it until the baby is older where he can control it. Even if you don't give your baby diapers and do any toilet training, by the time he is 3 or 4, he will able to control it. It is a process.
Just use car for example: Engine are more sophisticated today than yesterday and this has nothing to do with government. It has something to do with market competition.
Just ask yourself this: if regulation works, then why are we still have these problem? I am not familiar with EPA, but I am familiar with SEC. Look at SEC and how much money is spent on it, and did they stop anything from happening? Criminal will always does crimes regardless of what the regulation/laws say, they just don't care. Regulations just hurt the very same people they said they try to protect.
The environmentalist fanatical whack jobs with the help of this administration are destroying this country's ability to become energy independent....The End of America!!!
And a whole lot of idiots truly believe this... I can't expect them to know that this isn't something that started with this administration.
But then, should I give the stupid a benefit of doubt to have some integrity? Naah, that will be feeding a snake.
The EPA is not "forcing" any power plant to close. Nobody from the EPA will show up, remove all the workers, turn out the lights, shut down the furnaces and lock the gates. It is the OWNERS of those plants who will make the decision to close rather than meet the new requirements mandated by Congress.
It's their choice.
This.
They had all kinds of time to retrofit these plants. They stalled and stalled, no doubt thinking that they would get their lobbyists to fix things for them.
Now, because they waited, they are competing with cheaper energy sources.
Oh, well.
They rolled the dice and lost.
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If these plants are shut down it is not because the pollution retrofits are too expensive. That will be the excuse while the reason is these things are simply too inefficient and worn out to compete with new natural gas fueled generators. The utilities are blaming the government for their failure to modernize their existing facilities.
I believe the utilities actually lobbied for the restrictions so their executives could avoid taking responsibility for their poor decisions to not replace the old Junkers with modern facilities. Actions like this are why I think all power generation should be government owned and operated. We cannot trust private operators to do what is best for the country instead of what is best in the short term for their investors.
The environmentalist fanatical whack jobs with the help of this administration are destroying this country's ability to become energy independent....The End of America!!!
for the vast majority, we have nothing to replace them with. Way to go EPA, just kill coal power.
Ironic isn't it, how our government worried about cyber attacks from rogue nations or terror groups, that might shut down power plants with cyber attacks? Here we have our own government attacking us from within.
If these plants are shut down it is not because the pollution retrofits are too expensive. That will be the excuse while the reason is these things are simply too inefficient and worn out to compete with new natural gas fueled generators. The utilities are blaming the government for their failure to modernize their existing facilities.
I believe the utilities actually lobbied for the restrictions so their executives could avoid taking responsibility for their poor decisions to not replace the old Junkers with modern facilities. Actions like this are why I think all power generation should be government owned and operated. We cannot trust private operators to do what is best for the country instead of what is best in the short term for their investors.
That was a post out of pure ignorance. you talk as if the EPA has not mandated extremely high cost to modify coal-fired power plants.
Kansas plant costs Westar, Kansas' dominant power company, has some upgrades under way already and may need to implement others as the new regulations are finalized and phased in over three years, Eastman said. The current estimated cost for the company's three coal plants: * $650 million for Westar's share of the LaCygne Energy Center, which the company shares with Kansas City Power and Light * $450 million for the Jeffrey Energy Center near St. Marys * $380 million for the Lawrence Energy Center The costs will go onto consumer bills through an environmental cost recovery rider, a mechanism for the company to collect its costs of complying with pollution regulations.
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