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Old 10-06-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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so why are people trying to make a good life for their children? Are we living the Soviet dream here, where everyone remains poor, and no one can work hard to move up in life?

Pursuit of happieness
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Pursuit of happieness
Too bad that 0bama only wants us to pursue it up to a point, then he thinks we've earned enough money, and the rest of it needs to be spread around, so the masses can expand horizontally from the middle.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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President Obama, speaking in Virginia, said, "We don't believe anybody is entitled to success in this country."
Do you believe YOU are ENTITLED to SUCCESS?
Please give a simple yes or no answer please.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Do you believe YOU are ENTITLED to SUCCESS?
Please give a simple yes or no answer please.
Who, besides 0bama, has been saying that success is something people feel entitled to have? It's just another one of his Marxist, class envy lines, that he feeds to his idiot followers; as if it's unfair that people are successful, because they got there by belonging to a rich person entitlement crowd.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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No one is entitled to success. Success comes with hard work. It comes from having ambition. It comes from working hard.

Unless you have a wealthy father like Mitt Romney's who can give you an extremely generous "allowance" while you are in college. And it helps when Dad knows how to set up trust funds for his sons so they don't have to pay a scad of taxes on a big fat wad of inheritance money. That gives you a real, nice head start. You still aren't "entitled" to success but if Dad's financial planners are really, really good you don't have to start at the bottom with the peons.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Who, besides 0bama, has been saying that success is something people feel entitled to have? It's just another one of his Marxist, class envy lines, that he feeds to his idiot followers; as if it's unfair that people are successful, because they got there by belonging to a rich person entitlement crowd.
Sir or madam, success is NOT an entitlement IMO, success is gained by working up thru the ranks, success is also gained by furthering their education, and working dilligently.

and, it's not one of his classless envy lines, he was trying to get a point across. but, when people take that video clip out of context, it's easy to see why RW minions pounce on it, they have not heard the entire message, or draw a conclusion from a "sound bite". you will not convince people otherwise by falsifying what the real message was, people are more intelligent that what you think.

I wanted to hear back from jt800 on that C-D user's opinion about what success means to them. as a former small business owner, I myself know the meaning of success.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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Obama's right. No one is entitled to success. You have to work for it.
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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He is right. Success isn't entitled, it's earned.

I thought you right wing lunatics were all against "entitlement."

Goes to show ones hypocrisy or lack of reading comprehension.
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Yes i know, you want communism, where no child is entitled to the better life his parents tried to create for him or her.
No, I don't. But not a damned person in this country is entitled to success.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No one is entitled to success. Success comes with hard work. It comes from having ambition. It comes from working hard.
Exactly, but to 0bama it's just not fair if you open a hardware store and are successful enough a business person that you do well enough to open a second one, if someone else was unable or unwilling to take the risk and do the same.

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Unless you have a wealthy father like Mitt Romney's who can give you an extremely generous "allowance" while you are in college. And it helps when Dad knows how to set up trust funds for his sons so they don't have to pay a scad of taxes on a big fat wad of inheritance money. That gives you a real, nice head start. You still aren't "entitled" to success but if Dad's financial planners are really, really good you don't have to start at the bottom with the peons.
Mitt did have the benefit of a father who was a successful man himself. But just because George Romney was a successful man, does not mean Mitt would be too. There are rich kid, trust fund babies, who never amount to anything, and just live off their parent's success, just look to Hollywood to find sons and daughters who never amount to anything.
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