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Old 10-08-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I have been reading all the talk about this poll and that poll... To me, I have said and will continue to say, it all depends on whether the Obama campaign can get out the vote. I listen to a lot of people in my day to day business, and a lot of them are saying they just aren't even going to bother to vote this time. I don't think Obama can win unless he turns democrats in the same kind of numbers as he did in 08. The fact is, like it or not, the republicans are going to get out and vote this time. The question is, will democrats? I'm not looking for poll numbers here. Just your "honest" opinion. Is Obama in trouble? Could his base simply not come out?
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I have been reading all the talk about this poll and that poll... To me, I have said and will continue to say, it all depends on whether the Obama campaign can get out the vote. I listen to a lot of people in my day to day business, and a lot of them are saying they just aren't even going to bother to vote this time. I don't think Obama can win unless he turns democrats in the same kind of numbers as he did in 08. The fact is, like it or not, the republicans are going to get out and vote this time. The question is, will democrats? I'm not looking for poll numbers here. Just your "honest" opinion. Is Obama in trouble? Could his base simply not come out?

The question is, is the left excited. I don't think they are, as a matter of fact I think their hopes were somewhat dashed after the debate the other night.

Its still a month out (well, almost), so a lot can change. The GOP's hopes were down, and their "get out the vote" effort was picked up quite a bit after that performance by Mitters.

I still think the election is really to close to call, but Obama still has the best chance at winning. They only have to get out the vote in Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Virginia, or Colorado. Any three of those states, and he's going to win Ohio and Iowa most likely, which brings it down to needing just one more of about 10 swing states, he wins.

We'll see.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Will the left get out the vote?


No.

They will simply get out.

On Jan. 20, 2013.

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Old 10-08-2012, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Will the left get out the vote?


No.

They will simply get out.

On Jan. 20, 2013.


Lets say Romney wins, if he gets rid of the mortgage interest deduction, and medicare is turned into a voucher system, he'll be out, in 2016
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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Lets say Romney wins, if he gets rid of the mortgage interest deduction, and medicare is turned into a voucher system, he'll be out, in 2016
Perhaps, but if the economy has a large uptick and there is real growth, the deficit is reduced and we come closer to a revenue neutral economy, then it once again becomes anyones guess. Plus do you really think congress is going to go along with getting rid of the mortgage interest deduction? The medicare voucher system is a possibility, but depending how it is addressed, that could possibly be a plus.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Perhaps, but if the economy has a large uptick and there is real growth, the deficit is reduced and we come closer to a revenue neutral economy, then it once again becomes anyones guess. Plus do you really think congress is going to go along with getting rid of the mortgage interest deduction? The medicare voucher system is a possibility, but depending how it is addressed, that could possibly be a plus.

People take that mortgage interest deduction personally.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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People take that mortgage interest deduction personally.
I agree, but I don't think it will ever get past congress, thus it become a mute point IMHO.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I agree, but I don't think it will ever get past congress, thus it become a mute point IMHO.
Thats a possibility, and I've thought of that also. If the Dems hold 41 seats in the Senate, and they will, they'll never allow anything past that gets rid of that deduction, unless they want to use it as a political talking point, which is also a possibility.

This predicting the future thing, not an exact science. Lots of ways it can play out.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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Thats a possibility, and I've thought of that also. If the Dems hold 41 seats in the Senate, and they will, they'll never allow anything past that gets rid of that deduction, unless they want to use it as a political talking point, which is also a possibility.

This predicting the future thing, not an exact science. Lots of ways it can play out.
I don't see republican representatives voting in favor of it...They all have to get re-elected.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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The bad debate by Obama has actually given many Democrats the kick they needed to stop being complacent and get out there and vote...... The debate may have been just what was needed to inspire Democratic voters..... every cloud has a silver lining.
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