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Old 10-29-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I keep seeing these ads about all the jobs that can't be filled because the unemployed don't have the right skills. So I asked (on a different forum) what these jobs are that people could get training for and end up with a job. People want to go back to work, right? If some training results in a job, good, right?

What an earful.

I heard from a lot of employers who can't fill jobs because they can't find applicants who can pass a drug test. Then when they hire someone, the new employee won't do any work, or won't even show up. One employer says he tests 100 applicants to get 10 to pass a drug test and of those ten, only 1 will be willing to do any work after he is hired.

So here's the question: would Americans work if they could not sit home in front of the TV drawing employment or receiving welfare? If unemployment were allowed to run out would Americans go back to work? It sure looks to me like there are jobs available.

Wouldn't that help the economy if a lot of people went back to work and started paying their taxes and spending their paycheck?
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So here's the question: would Americans work if they could not sit home in front of the TV drawing employment or receiving welfare? If unemployment were allowed to run out would Americans go back to work? It sure looks to me like there are jobs available.
I am assuming then, that you don't know anybody who is unemployed and is actively seeking job.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:32 AM
 
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I keep seeing these ads about all the jobs that can't be filled because the unemployed don't have the right skills. So I asked (on a different forum) what these jobs are that people could get training for and end up with a job. People want to go back to work, right? If some training results in a job, good, right?

What an earful.

I heard from a lot of employers who can't fill jobs because they can't find applicants who can pass a drug test. Then when they hire someone, the new employee won't do any work, or won't even show up. One employer says he tests 100 applicants to get 10 to pass a drug test and of those ten, only 1 will be willing to do any work after he is hired.

So here's the question: would Americans work if they could not sit home in front of the TV drawing employment or receiving welfare? If unemployment were allowed to run out would Americans go back to work? It sure looks to me like there are jobs available.

Wouldn't that help the economy if a lot of people went back to work and started paying their taxes and spending their paycheck?
Well Obama just legalized upwards of a million folks to take those jobs because many appear to be happy sitting at home in front of that TV collecting their stipend from uncle sam. Somebody has to pay taxes to keep that money going out. Then you have your group who won't work certain jobs because they are "below" them. I mean they got a degree after all. They're supposed to be making six figures.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I keep seeing these ads about all the jobs that can't be filled because the unemployed don't have the right skills. So I asked (on a different forum) what these jobs are that people could get training for and end up with a job. People want to go back to work, right? If some training results in a job, good, right?

What an earful.

I heard from a lot of employers who can't fill jobs because they can't find applicants who can pass a drug test. Then when they hire someone, the new employee won't do any work, or won't even show up. One employer says he tests 100 applicants to get 10 to pass a drug test and of those ten, only 1 will be willing to do any work after he is hired.

So here's the question: would Americans work if they could not sit home in front of the TV drawing employment or receiving welfare? If unemployment were allowed to run out would Americans go back to work? It sure looks to me like there are jobs available.

Wouldn't that help the economy if a lot of people went back to work and started paying their taxes and spending their paycheck?
Like I have said before, we need to cut out welfare. It's the job of charity/religious institutions, etc to help out people, not the Government. I actually had a conversation with someone a few weeks back, and when I mentioned charity, they said it was welfare, and that was different. When I said it wasn't any different than charity, they got indignant.

Let's call it what it is, charity.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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hoe about employers who want more than they really need? for instance, i checked the job requirements for teachers at a local junior college here. i was thinking about teaching a few classes in hospitality management, but the school requires a masters degree in the field in question. i guess my 25 years in various positions in the industry dont count.

while i agree that engineers need a degree for those jobs, and that some jobs need certain certifications and education levels(i dont want a lawyer who hasnt studied law for instance), there are jobs where employers are requiring a degree for which there is no real need for one.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:37 AM
 
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My problem with some charities,esp religious based ones,is that they want you to pray with them.
One church I went to get food from long ago(11 years ago) wanted us to sit for church services.

THAT is wrong. What if I was a different religion,and couldn't sit for the service?
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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hoe about employers who want more than they really need? for instance, i checked the job requirements for teachers at a local junior college here. i was thinking about teaching a few classes in hospitality management, but the school requires a masters degree in the field in question. i guess my 25 years in various positions in the industry dont count.

while i agree that engineers need a degree for those jobs, and that some jobs need certain certifications and education levels(i dont want a lawyer who hasnt studied law for instance), there are jobs where employers are requiring a degree for which there is no real need for one.
That may have to do with accreditation issues. The college may not be able to be accredited if instructors don't have masters' degrees.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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Well Obama just legalized upwards of a million folks to take those jobs because many appear to be happy sitting at home in front of that TV collecting their stipend from uncle sam. Somebody has to pay taxes to keep that money going out. Then you have your group who won't work certain jobs because they are "below" them. I mean they got a degree after all. They're supposed to be making six figures.
True.

A while back a foreign president commented on how lazy Americans are when explaining why we needed to take millions of his unwanted people off his hands -- and there was no objection from our politicians about it. Maybe it's true? Maybe many Americans are content to lay around living off government handouts and watching cable television all day?

It seems many people actually believe we can keep the borders wide open for all those who are willing to work at least for a while until they have a baby and a large chunk of Americans can live out their days doing nothing but have their every need and want given to them by the government.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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One of those jobs is nursing.

However,the difference is that we don't need additional nurses.
The employers,mainly hospitals,want to protray foreign trained nurses as better than American nurses to drive down wages for nurses.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My problem with some charities,esp religious based ones,is that they want you to pray with them.
One church I went to get food from long ago(11 years ago) wanted us to sit for church services.

THAT is wrong. What if I was a different religion,and couldn't sit for the service?
It is why "charity" is mostly a sham, promoted by people with the same agenda.
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