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Old 11-07-2012, 10:25 PM
 
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No the hard 35,040 hours are coming for us all. Check that 35,004 hours. Had to take off the first 36.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:26 PM
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You were warned. I feel so sorry for anyone that voted for this man. You are going to be so sorry. Like a sheep to the slaughter.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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No the hard 35,040 hours are coming for us all. Check that 35,004 hours. Had to take off the first 36.
Oh, it's going to be a long 4 years I can see.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:28 PM
 
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Jeez, you have gone off the deep end. No one is taking anyone's guns. Relax. Honestly, I don't know why you guys continually do this to yourselves.

And just because someone finds your claims preposterous doesn't mean they are an Obama worshipper.
Tell it to the UN..........

13. With the cooperation of the international community, Governments shall
develop and implement effective disarmament, demobilization and reintegration programmes,
including the effective collection, control, storage and destruction of small arms, particularly in
post-conflict situations. Governments should take steps to encourage voluntary disarmament.
Governments should implement public awareness and confidence-building programmes, in
cooperation with civil society and non-governmental organizations, to prevent a return to armed
violence and to encourage alternative forms of dispute resolution. Governments should
incorporate a gender perspective in their peacekeeping and public awareness efforts to ensure
that the special needs and human rights of women and children are met, especially in
post-conflict situations.

http://hrp.cla.umn.edu/projresearch/...Principles.pdf
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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You were warned. I feel so sorry for anyone that voted for this man. You are going to be so sorry. Like a sheep to the slaughter.
Why would we be sorry? We aren't the ones that are going to be deported.



Oops, nevermind. Forget I wrote that, ok?
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:39 PM
 
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"We will not accept any treaty that infringes on the constitutional rights of our citizens to bear arms," he said."

And this is a problem why exactly?
Because the position of liberals is that the 2nd Amendment doesn't mean what guns rights defenders claim it to be, so for guns rights defenders, the quote is just part of an affirmation of the standard liberal argument for more limitations on gun rights.

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Why would we be sorry? We aren't the ones that are going to be deported.
Because one day there will be capital flight. Property will be left fallow and we'll need weapons to retake it from corporations that will have control of the government.



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You were warned. I feel so sorry for anyone that voted for this man. You are going to be so sorry. Like a sheep to the slaughter.
Too bad my only choice was between gun restrictions and social tyranny, institutionalized bigotry, cleptocracy, and fascism. Maybe you people could do a little soul searching and give a better choice. Maybe read that Bible between thumps.

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Old 11-07-2012, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Agree to a round of talks...not endorsing or approving or even signing a Arms Treaty.

Quote:
"We seek a treaty that contributes to international security by fighting illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have been articulating throughout," the official said.


"We will not accept any treaty that infringes on the constitutional rights of our citizens to bear arms," he said.


U.S. officials have acknowledged privately that the treaty under discussion would have no effect on domestic gun sales and ownership because it would apply only to exports.
The failure to listen, comprehend and actually address the issues vs. hyperbole and hysteria is one of the main reason the GOP & RWNJ's lost yesterday. And this post is a clear example of that.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Tell it to the UN..........

13. With the cooperation of the international community, Governments shall
develop and implement effective disarmament, demobilization and reintegration programmes,
including the effective collection, control, storage and destruction of small arms, particularly in
post-conflict situations. Governments should take steps to encourage voluntary disarmament.
Governments should implement public awareness and confidence-building programmes, in
cooperation with civil society and non-governmental organizations, to prevent a return to armed
violence and to encourage alternative forms of dispute resolution. Governments should
incorporate a gender perspective in their peacekeeping and public awareness efforts to ensure
that the special needs and human rights of women and children are met, especially in
post-conflict situations.

http://hrp.cla.umn.edu/projresearch/...Principles.pdf
If you actually read the whole document, it is primarily concerned with human rights violations, like those that occurred in Bosnia. The fact that the quote you cite contextualizes these procedures for disarmament as a way of preventing "return to armed violence" illustrates this clearly.

In fact, earlier in the report, the legal use of firearms is reaffirmed:

"8. In honouring the right to life, liberty and security of person, as guaranteed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and reaffirmed in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the intentional lethal use of small arms may only be made when strictly unavoidable in order to protect life. State agents, including law enforcement officials, shall not use small arms against persons except in self-defence or defence of others against the imminent threat of death or serious injury, to prevent the perpetration of a particularly serious crime involving grave threat to life, to arrest a person presenting such a danger and resisting their authority, or to prevent his or her escape, and only when less extreme means are insufficient to achieve these objectives."

Member States are rightfully charged with developing licensing procedures, which we already have in this country.

Your guns are safe!!!!
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:46 PM
 
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That is not how the UN operates. This is what they will be basing their treaty on. According to the UN there is no right to self defense. AFter reading through all the nonsense after that florida teen shooting the liberals are in complete agreement. Now the senate would have to ratify the thing but this is a look into what the transformation of America is in the eyes of our dear leader. Enjoy.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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That is not how the UN operates. This is what they will be basing their treaty on. According to the UN there is no right to self defense. AFter reading through all the nonsense after that florida teen shooting the liberals are in complete agreement. Now the senate would have to ratify the thing but this is a look into what the transformation of America is in the eyes of our dear leader. Enjoy.
I just gave you a quote from the very same document that you quoted, and it clearly states the inherent right to self defense.
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