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Old 11-18-2012, 12:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by stargazzer View Post
Homosexuality is immoral, it is wrong. No one in the world can argue as it is undeniably an argument against the opinion of nature, in every way including example. Its not an argument with man.

Homosexuality deliberately bigots the naturally intended in the most anti life way imaginable, both by flourish and now, HIV as gays are fully known to be the instruments of cause in fueling the aids epidemic.

You've been well told.
Do you EVER make any sense?

 
Old 11-18-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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Meh, you're wrong on all counts. Homosexuality has existed and been documented throughout various societies whether flourishing or not. It's been documented in many other species. It's probably because sex has come to serve as much more than just a strictly biological reproductive act not just for humans but for a lot of species in the world. I have no idea what "instruments of cause in fueling" is supposed to mean, but if you mean to pin HIV on homosexuals specifically for creating the virus, then you're pretty far off the rocker. Also, what about stuff like heart diseases, various cancers, down syndrome, alcoholism, etc. basically all diseases and syndromes in the world? Do you have specific groups you'd like to pin down for each thing? Is this a new fashionable drinking game?

I'll start: West Samoans - Epilepsy

Who's next?


So has theft.... Having read, you've been well told.
 
Old 11-18-2012, 12:54 AM
 
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It's all "framing" the arguement in soundbites....more important than content.
the traditional marriage is between a man and woman,,,thats what marriage is/was

the dems, are masters at framing, demonizing, because they have the mainstream media to trumpet, for them..

they turned gay marriage into "marriage equality" which implies, if you oppose it, you arent being fair....

republicans need to lern from this..

spend less time on content and more time on framing the arguement,
If you oppose tax paying gay and lesbian citizens having the same rights and protections as tax paying straight citizens, then of course you 'aren't being fair'.How could that not be obvious to any rational thinking person?
 
Old 11-18-2012, 12:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by OyCrumbler View Post
Meh, you're wrong on all counts. Homosexuality has existed and been documented throughout various societies whether flourishing or not. It's been documented in many other species. It's probably because sex has come to serve as much more than just a strictly biological reproductive act not just for humans but for a lot of species in the world. I have no idea what "instruments of cause in fueling" is supposed to mean, but if you mean to pin HIV on homosexuals specifically for creating the virus, then you're pretty far off the rocker. Also, what about stuff like heart diseases, various cancers, down syndrome, alcoholism, etc. basically all diseases and syndromes in the world? Do you have specific groups you'd like to pin down for each thing? Is this a new fashionable drinking game?

I'll start: West Samoans - Epilepsy

Who's next?
Conservative religious zealots - Insanity, Sociopathy, Cognitive dysfunction....

 
Old 11-18-2012, 12:57 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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So has theft.... Having read, you've been well told.
What? What does well told mean? And who gazzes at stars? How do you gazz anything?

Were you trying to equate homosexuality to theft?
 
Old 11-18-2012, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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When are we ever going to start taxing these people?
 
Old 11-18-2012, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Catholic Church spent million fighting marriage equality this election cycle – LGBTQ Nation

The church seems to care more about keeping gay americans from marrying than providing for people in poverty these days.
Like the mormons, they need to lose their tax status.
 
Old 11-18-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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Catholic Church spent million fighting marriage equality this election cycle – LGBTQ Nation

The church seems to care more about keeping gay americans from marrying than providing for people in poverty these days.

This is part of the reason why I stopped giving money to the church and then stopped going altogether. Besides not agreeing anymore with the church on these topics, I cannot fund hate speech. Then as someone else pointed out, the church is caring more about what 2 consenting people do outside of the church than they do about what their own priests are doing within the church. Their priorities are completely screwed up.
 
Old 11-18-2012, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The union of two men or two women is not equal to the union of a man and a woman. Seems to me the Catholic Church spent two million dollars to dope slap America.
 
Old 11-18-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Churches most certainly do have business sticking their noses into the issue of marriage. Church leaders are usually the ones officiating these covenants. They don't want to be put in the position of being forced to officiate homosexual unions, or have their tax exemption taken away. Or, to be charged with "hate speech" for daring to say what the Bible clearly states about homosexual behavior. This is not too far away, or far-fetched, is happening in Europe already.

Yes, homosexuals should have the freedom to form a union and get benefits in our pluralistic society. But, absolutely the church ( all denominations which still uphold the Bible ) has a right and responsibility to preserve the sanctity of marriage as we understand it. Churches should never be forced to participate in or condone a lifestyle just because the state or society at large decides to sanction it.
No one has said Churches should be forced to perform same-sex marriage. This is about CIVIL Marriage and LEGAL Marriage. The Church has every right to dictate the laws of their Church, but they shouldn't dictate state or federal laws.
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