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Old 12-03-2012, 07:09 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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If the president stayed at the White House over the holidays the whiners would be complaining that he's preventing the cleaning and kitchen staff there from getting time off over the holidays. There isn't anything he could do that would please the whiners except maybe kill himself and then they'd complain about the method he choose.

By the way, the queen of birthers just got another slap down from a judge who told her that she should know evidence isn't something you print off the internet.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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The same amount of money would be spent, or even more, if he went anywhere in the country. The POTUS is not a prisoner of the WH. Get over your silly selves complainers, you look real ignorant.
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If the president stayed at the White House over the holidays the whiners would be complaining that he's preventing the cleaning and kitchen staff there from getting time off over the holidays. There isn't anything he could do that would please the whiners except maybe kill himself and then they'd complain about the method he choose.

By the way, the queen of birthers just got another slap down from a judge who told her that she should know evidence isn't something you print off the internet.


You both seem to miss the point.......why should it cost this much??? You do know it's "CHARGED" with interest from China
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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You both seem to miss the point.......why should it cost this much??? You do know it's "CHARGED" with interest from China
It costs that much because that's what it is and it's up to Congress to change the budget for the president. We aren't some third world country that needs to keep our elected leader on a shoestring budget and risk him being assassinated, or expect him to tool around in a jeep.

As far as your comment about China...all I can say is, "No it isn't."
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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You seem to miss the point.......why should it cost this much??? You do know it's "CHARGED" with interest from China
3/4 of that 4 million would still be spent if the president stayed in D.C., secret service being the bulk of the cost involved in anything the president and his family does. The communications set up and logistics involved keeping a president---any president---safe is not and should not be an optional cost of government based on whether or not you hate the guy. If you're going to complain that he doesn't need to go as far as Hawaii, his home state, then we might as well make a new law that anyone from Hawaii and Alaska can't run for president....that's how silly you whiners sound....because you don't want to pay for him/her to return home for 4 or 8 years.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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If the president stayed at the White House over the holidays the whiners would be complaining that he's preventing the cleaning and kitchen staff there from getting time off over the holidays. There isn't anything he could do that would please the whiners except maybe kill himself and then they'd complain about the method he choose.

By the way, the queen of birthers just got another slap down from a judge who told her that she should know evidence isn't something you print off the internet.
All you libs have are butt loads of straw man arguments, it just shows how non-intellectual you are. You cannot win on arguments with facts, so you need to make things up. You need to make a straw man, then beat the snot out of it, to justify your views and opinions to yourselves.

Bush and Reagan would go to their ranch. It was cheap, required low levels of security, and the taxpayers did not have to rent out entire floors in an office building and hotels. We probably spend more money catering to the vacation and recreational desires of the Obama family then the citizens in the UK spend on the entire royal family.

The estimated total annual cost of the monarchy to taxpayers is £202.4m, around five times the official figure published by the royal household (£38.3m last year).

Republic | Royal Finances
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Pearl Harbor Day is approaching soon ... on Dec 7th.

Just thought you might want to remember it, as our President travels to Hawaii.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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All you libs have are butt loads of straw man arguments, it just shows how non-intellectual you are. You cannot win on arguments with facts, so you need to make things up. You need to make a straw man, then beat the snot out of it, to justify your views and opinions to yourselves.

Bush and Reagan would go to their ranch. It was cheap, required low levels of security, and the taxpayers did not have to rent out entire floors in an office building and hotels. We probably spend more money catering to the vacation and recreational desires of the Obama family then the citizens in the UK spend on the entire royal family.

The estimated total annual cost of the monarchy to taxpayers is £202.4m, around five times the official figure published by the royal household (£38.3m last year).

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Well, happily for you it sounds like the Obama's may be buying a home in Hawaii and therefor won't have to "rent a place".

Regardng your comparison to the Royal Family - you DO know don't you that the Royal Family holds vast tracks of land the people of the UK pay rent on don't you? - thus they provide for much of their own upkeep (or more precisely the people of the UK provide for it in what is (in effect) a "hidden tax" to the Royal Family). So, since both the Queen and the President are the "Heads of State" of their respective countries, maybe - since you are comparing the two - all income derived from Federal land should be given to whoever the current President is to offset their "cost" to tax payers - at least if you want to do an "apples to apples" comparison. THEN maybe you could realistically compare the "cost" of the two.



Ken

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Yes, of course no sitting president ever took a vacation that cost the taxpayers a nickel. Only Obama. He is the first and the last I'm sure.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Only the truly ignorant don't understand the difference between "blaming" Bush and using his alleged presidency as a comparison. Especially since the comparison makes your whining look stupid and racist.

only an obama leg-humper would forget the fact he promised hed be different and better than any prior POTUS.
Using a prior POTUS is an excuse used by the simple minded.


obama and family act like trailer park trash who won the lotto.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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I guess i will pay my 5 cents
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