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Old 12-02-2012, 12:11 PM
 
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It's not a man causative cycle... the Earth has warmed and cooled a hundred times over....



"science suggests"
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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The fact is there ain't a damn thing, short of building dikes, we can do about it. Why don't we worry about the things we can control.
And you probably drive a truck
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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The Chevy Volt is a great car. My parents love theirs.

That's nice.

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Old 12-02-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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What you are referring to are called Milankovitch cycles, and based on all of the above, we should not be in a warming phase.


guess what, if the planet earth entered into a mini ice age or actual ise age, lots of people would be screaming for global warming.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So........just how much has the world's temperature risen in the last 100 years? While you're at it why don't you tell us just how many more tornados, droughts, and hurricanes are a result of said temperature rise.
Okay.



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The planet is now close to 0.8 degrees Celsius warmer than it was a century ago. Hidden within annual averages and expected variability are startling instances of new temperature and rainfall records in many parts of the world—weather extremes that would once be considered anomalies but that now risk becoming the new norm as the Earth heats up.
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Scorching heat, drought, and wildfires across the U.S. Southern Plains and Southwest caused farm, ranch, and forestry damages that exceeded $10 billion in 2011. Wichita Falls, Texas, experienced 100 days over 100 degrees Fahrenheit......................
Eco-Economy Indicators - Global Temperature | EPI


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The report does say scientists are "virtually certain" – 99 percent – that the world will have more extreme spells of heat and fewer of cold. Heat waves could peak as much as 5 degrees hotter by mid-century and even 9 degrees hotter by the end of the century.
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Scientists expect future hurricanes and other tropical cyclones to have stronger winds, but they won't increase in number and may actually decrease.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology meteorology professor Kerry Emanuel, who studies climate's effects on hurricanes, disagrees and believes more of these intense storms will occur.
Extreme Weather Caused By Global Warming Is Going To Worsen, Scientists Say
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Let us see what has happened when the government has got involved....Solyandra, the Chevy Volt, ethanol, cap and trade proposals that will do nothing but ship jobs to China.
Remember the first computer or radio? We need to keep working on green energy technology. In doing so, we will figure out how to make this technology more efficient and cheaper. Where is your American can-do spirit?

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Old 12-02-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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It's too late, we're all going to pay the price for killing our environment.
Emissions of Carbon Dioxide Hit Record in 2011, Researchers Say - NYTimes.com
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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How many satellite readings were we taking in 1860? I saw a picture of the data used in many of these graphs. They were hand-written pages and in some cases compiled from old newspaper reports. The underlying data wouldn't pass review today.

We have about 35 years of comparative satellite data. Out of 4 billion.

We know that ice covered the plains as far south as Kansas and the North Pole was once a tropical rain forest.

It's warmer than it was during the last ice age. But we don't have any idea what the long-term average temperature is because anyone who was alive was eaten by a dinosaur before they had a chance to hammer and chisel the data into the wall of their cave.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Houston
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And you probably drive a truck
Looking at a Hummer.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Remember the first computer or radio? We need to keep working on green energy technology. In doing so, we will figure out how to make this technology more efficient and cheaper. Where is your American can-do spirit?
I trust the free market to make things more efficient. I don't think computer improvements, by and large, have come from government.
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