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Old 12-05-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Its not about HER body. Its about a life that two people came together and created. At the point of inception, both parents should be equaly involved in deciding the childs faith, as they are both responsible for it.
It is HER body that is hosting this baby.

If "dad" wants a say, "dad" needs to make his choice known BEFORE conception. It's very simple. Don't have sex if you don't want to deal with this issue.

 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Its not about HER body. Its about a life that two people came together and created. At the point of inception, both parents should be equaly involved in deciding the childs faith, as they are both responsible for it.
Um, it's completely about her body. Her body is permanently physically altered. Her vagina will be shredded during child birth. She's at risk for gestational cardiomyopathy, gestational diabetes, hemorrhaging, invasive surgery, the list goes on and on. She will have to take care of her body for almost a year to ensure the child has proper prenatal care (no alcohol, no sushi, no caffeine, limited physical activity, limited work activity). What will you do? Nothing, as usual. And you need this explained to you. Mod cut: Personal attack.

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Old 12-05-2012, 07:55 PM
 
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I do agree with you that the man should have some say in the pregnancy.

2 people created it, and yes the child is in the woman, but both need to be on the same page because that's still a child's life that is in there hands.
I think that's the issue. Who gets to make the decision if they don't agree.

I think if one parent wants the child, that should trump the other.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:55 PM
 
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It is HER body that is hosting this baby.

If "dad" wants a say, "dad" needs to make his choice known BEFORE conception. It's very simple. Don't have sex if you don't want to deal with this issue.
Same can be said about both parties involved. Same way both parties need to decide about whether to keep the baby or abort. Im against abortion, period but if you must do it, do it with consent and agreemtn of both parents. Anything else, and you should be serving time in jail.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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. Don't have sex if you don't want to deal with this issue.
My point exactly.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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She had sex knowing the possible consequence. Unless there's a substantiated medical reason, that excuse doesn't fly.
Unfortunately you cannot predict that risk.

I would never tell another person what do with their body.

But kind of my point. People shouldn't be having sex if they aren't willing to risk having a child (or in the males case, having a fetus aborted).
 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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My aunt aborted a child against the will the sperm depositor. He met her at the clinic where the procedure was performed to stop her. My mother and many other sisters were there to make sure he didn't interfere in what was none of his business.

The man has no say in what happens to a fetus until it comes out of the woman kicking and screaming.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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Stuff like this is why I don't have a problem with so called "deadbeat dads." Even though it takes two to produce a kid, women seem to call all the shots and often disregard anything the man has to say. Therefore, I believe guys should also call some shots and be able to decide whether or not they want to be involved or don't want to be involved. Just like women are free to have an abortion, a guy should be allowed to walk away if he's not interested in being a father.

Fair is fair.

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Old 12-05-2012, 07:58 PM
 
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Well, of course but if that were indeed the case, than the man would also likely agree to it, if he cared about this woman.
How about we all agree to a law that all men get reversible vasectomies at birth, which is far less invasive than carrying to term and delivering. That would solve everything.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:58 PM
 
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I think that's the issue. Who gets to make the decision if they don't agree.

I think if one parent wants the child, that should trump the other.
I agree with that. Medical issues aside, if one of the parents want the child, that baby is being born.

If both are unsure, they need to find a counselor and discuss it before it's too late.
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