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Old 12-05-2012, 08:02 PM
 
Location: North of 60
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Same can be said about both parties involved. Same way both parties need to decide about whether to keep the baby or abort. Im against abortion, period but if you must do it, do it with consent and agreemtn of both parents. Anything else, and you should be serving time in jail.
It's easy to take a stance when you'll never find yourself in the situation where you're knocked up.

In my opinion, it depends on who fathered the baby. If it's a current partner or an ex, of course I'd tell them. If it were a one-night stand or someone I'm casually dating, I might not. I don't know, I can't say for sure because I haven't been in the situation and truthfully unless that happens, I don't know how I'd react.

 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Pa
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BS. Both parents are involved in creating the child and both need to have input into such decisions. maybe women were meant to give birth so there is actual reason for having them around. THis is why I cant stand feminist freaks, because equality isnt what they are after. They are on a power grab spree and nothing short of smacking them in their flannel wearing heads will make em pause.
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Then how about you get your sack hacked if you two don't agree? She's forced to deliver and you are forced never to help get a woman in that situation again.
If the man is willing to be there and help it is welcomed.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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Um, it's completely about her body. Her body is permanently physically altered. Her vagina will be shredded during child birth. She's at risk for gestational cardiomyopathy, gestational diabetes, hemorrhaging, invasive surgery, the list goes on and on. She will have to take care of her body for almost a year to ensure the child has proper prenatal care (no alcohol, no sushi, no caffeine, limited physical activity, limited work activity). What will you do? Nothing, as usual. And you need this explained to you. Snip.
Cool, since it's all about a woman's body, you women can do everything on your own without any required help from the father, including financial help.

Since you females want to call all the shots regarding pregnancy and child rearing, you can pay all the bills related to pregnancy and child rearing. Since you believe that the pregnancy is all about the woman, adopt the same attitude after the kid is born.

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Old 12-05-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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Stuff like this is why I don't have a problem with so called "deadbeat dads." Even though it takes two to produce a kid, women seem to call all the shots and often disregard anything the man has to say. Therefore, I believe guys should also call some shots and be able to decide whether or not they want to be involved or don't want to be involved. Just like women are free to have an abortion, guys should be allowed to walk away if he's not interested in being a father.

Fair is fair.
Or, you could just not have sex and be in this predicament to begin with. Why is this such a hard concept? People want their cake and eat it too. If you are mature and responsible enough to have sex, you should be mature and responsible enough to deal with the consequences in today's time.

Since you can't force a woman to have a baby or force her to have an abortion, then that leaves two options. Have a vasectomy or don't have sex.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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Do tell how does that have any relevancy to whether guys should have a say in abortion?

Seems you're reacting emotionally not logically.

Bit telling that it seems you're okay with deciding what happens to a gal's body but decisions about what happens to a guy's body get a 'get back in the kitchen response'.
Nonsensical concepts get nonsensical replies. Vesactomy at birth for all men...bwahahahaha
 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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You can't blame a guy for mother nature's decision to make women the carriers.
Women are the carriers and hence the decision makers. Period.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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Only in rare instances is pregnancy and giving birth considered a medical risk to mothers health. THose instances should be treated on case by case basis. Some women talk about pregnancy as if it was a plastic surgery or something. Not even close.
WHO | Why do so many women still die in pregnancy or childbirth?

Savita Halappanavar Dead: Irish Woman Denied Abortion Dies From Blood Poisoning
 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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Cool, since it's all about a woman's body, that woman can do everything on her own without any required help from the father, including financial help.

Since you females want to call all the shots regarding pregnancy and child rearing, you can pay all the bills related to pregnancy and child rearing.
See, thats the problem man. They hardly want equality, they want it all. At this pace, I would expect a serious backlash against certain members of our society, in the very near future. THey want their cake and eat it too, just like with everything else.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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I think gals are doing outstanding in this thread, supporting my opinion. You guys dont need any help at all...
I think gals are doing outstanding in not supporting your opinion and showing they have other reasons for existing than to push out a baby.
 
Old 12-05-2012, 08:07 PM
 
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See, thats the problem man. They hardly want equality, they want it all. At this pace, I would expect a serious backlash against certain members of our society, in the very near future. THey want their cake and eat it too, just like with everything else.

And you don't? You want to use her as a *** bucket and then tell her what she can and can't do with her own body.

If you are going to have sex, accept the risk and consequences that go along with it. That goes for both parties, not just the male.
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