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Old 12-08-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You just keep drinking that red wine and eating that cheese, and feeling oh-so-superior. Do you think we might also discern what Pres. Obama might do from what he has said in the past? Or are you saying that he's a flip flopper?
Keep stocking up on guns, it is good for the economy.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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Because gun nuts are nuts when it comes to guns. It's in the job description.
Gun nuts aren't the ones pushing the homicide rate though.

Remember, why are guns bad? because they kill people.

And the vast vast vast majority of that is related to gangs and drugs in urban areas.

No one wants to admit the uncomfortable truth.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Gun nuts aren't the ones pushing the homicide rate though.

Remember, why are guns bad? because they kill people.

And the vast vast vast majority of that is related to gangs and drugs in urban areas.

No one wants to admit the uncomfortable truth.
This is true but they are the ones intimidating the politicians when the most innocuous gun laws are proposed. It`s hard to slow down the flow of guns when there`s obstruction at every turn. Limiting handgun purchases to 12 a year? Bad. Having to report that your arsenal was stolen? Can`t have that either.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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This is true but they are the ones intimidating the politicians when the most innocuous gun laws are proposed. It`s hard to slow down the flow of guns when there`s obstruction at every turn. Limiting handgun purchases to 12 a year? Bad. Having to report that your arsenal was stolen? Can`t have that either.
Intimidating politicians? Um, you know how they do that? They VOTE. You might not like it but characterizing a group that votes on an issue that is near and dear to them as "intimidating" is a poor choice of words IMO.

The bottom line is that cities don't want to tackle thier urban and societal issues by holding THEIR voters responsible. So, they try to pass the buck onto other people that have nothing to do with those problems but serve as useful scapegoats that don't vote in those politicians district.

There are just as many guns in my neighborhood as that of the Austin neighborhood in Chicago. Austin has 60+ murders a year, mine has maybe 1 every 5 years or so. However, my neighborhood isn't full of drugs and gangs....but no....the problem is really guns.

Basically, you are blaming the "flow of guns" and I respectfully disagree that has anything to do with it. Um, has banning meth, heroin and so forth slowed down their flow? These are the same guys already trafficking in drugs....nuff said.
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