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Old 12-10-2012, 05:49 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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After Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize, the worth of the award is pretty meaningless.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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You shouldn't bring up Clinton's Internet bubble economy. That bubble burst near the end of his second term.
Not quite. At the end of his 2nd term he was showing the real scam man he is.l

There was an after math to his bubble bursting and that happened in Oct 2004, where Nation Re-evaluation happened to lower proptery tax rates as it was said.

That in fact happened too, but it was a scam. All property after the re-eval, became worth 100,000 more minimum with out so much as a new nail.

So that increase in scam value increased taxes anyway, just at a lower rate... Pretty clever.

And that is where buyers made errors buying homes that were not worth anything like the asking prices...

A 33,000 camp with a sign out doesn't over night by pen stroke gain any 100,000 in value with no new nail..... Does IT? because that next day the sign was 165,000, and in fact a idiot bought the place for 133,000 and then he lost his shirt!

He wonders why, but i sure don't. This night mare belongs to Bill Clinton for a fact.... So does the foolish EPA and their blather.......

Ever since there hasn't been a president with a brain....... We got the tin man GWB and now we got Pinocchio the Puppet with invisible strings.

Worse we have a people who can't think.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Obama holds all the cards and the Republicans know it. John Boehner knows he is defeated and is clearing the decks for a deal by tossing the tea party Republicans overboard and purging key committees of them so the deal can flow through without the conservatives gumming up the works. And Obama is not going to give the Republicans much more than a few small face saving spending cuts. No touching Social Security or Medicare and PBS and Amtrack live on to see another day too. In other words, Obama is finally using his power to let the Republicans know who the boss is. That is what he should have been doing the past 4 years.
And the republican hold all the cards raising the debt ceiling, I smell a kick the can down the road compromise
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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Obama holds all the cards and the Republicans know it. John Boehner knows he is defeated and is clearing the decks for a deal by tossing the tea party Republicans overboard and purging key committees of them so the deal can flow through without the conservatives gumming up the works. And Obama is not going to give the Republicans much more than a few small face saving spending cuts. No touching Social Security or Medicare and PBS and Amtrack live on to see another day too. In other words, Obama is finally using his power to let the Republicans know who the boss is. That is what he should have been doing the past 4 years.
It may be an Obama victory. The sentence in the middle explains why it's an American loss.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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Not quite. At the end of his 2nd term he was showing the real scam man he is.l

There was an after math to his bubble bursting and that happened in Oct 2004, where Nation Re-evaluation happened to lower proptery tax rates as it was said.

That in fact happened too, but it was a scam. All property after the re-eval, became worth 100,000 more minimum with out so much as a new nail.

So that increase in scam value increased taxes anyway, just at a lower rate... Pretty clever.

And that is where buyers made errors buying homes that were not worth anything like the asking prices...

A 33,000 camp with a sign out doesn't over night by pen stroke gain any 100,000 in value with no new nail..... Does IT? because that next day the sign was 165,000, and in fact a idiot bought the place for 133,000 and then he lost his shirt!

He wonders why, but i sure don't. This night mare belongs to Bill Clinton for a fact.... So does the foolish EPA and their blather.......

Ever since there hasn't been a president with a brain....... We got the tin man GWB and now we got Pinocchio the Puppet with invisible strings.

Worse we have a people who can't think.
Clinton set up the banking collapse with all the regulations he repealed in his last two years in office. Repealing those regs allowed commercial banks and risk-taking investment banks to merge, so they could gamble away our money.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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Obama holds all the cards and the Republicans know it. John Boehner knows he is defeated and is clearing the decks for a deal by tossing the tea party Republicans overboard and purging key committees of them so the deal can flow through without the conservatives gumming up the works. And Obama is not going to give the Republicans much more than a few small face saving spending cuts. No touching Social Security or Medicare and PBS and Amtrack live on to see another day too. In other words, Obama is finally using his power to let the Republicans know who the boss is. That is what he should have been doing the past 4 years.
Obama is already stealing money out of Medicare to fund ObamaCare. Sooner, rather then later, no doctors or pharmacies will want new Medicare patients, or military patients on Tri-Care because the reimbursement rates will be severely reduced. Not to mention the monetary punishments ObamaCare slaps on service providers for readmitting Medicare patients.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Obama holds all the cards and the Republicans know it. John Boehner knows he is defeated and is clearing the decks for a deal by tossing the tea party Republicans overboard and purging key committees of them so the deal can flow through without the conservatives gumming up the works. And Obama is not going to give the Republicans much more than a few small face saving spending cuts. No touching Social Security or Medicare and PBS and Amtrack live on to see another day too. In other words, Obama is finally using his power to let the Republicans know who the boss is. That is what he should have been doing the past 4 years.
Obama victories smell like cow poo?
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:27 AM
 
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So hoping BO leads us right over that cliff. Time to get rid of thoise evil Bush tax cuts and return to the wise tax policies of Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton, who had a GOP congress?
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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Obama holds all the cards and the Republicans know it. John Boehner knows he is defeated and is clearing the decks for a deal by tossing the tea party Republicans overboard and purging key committees of them so the deal can flow through without the conservatives gumming up the works. And Obama is not going to give the Republicans much more than a few small face saving spending cuts. No touching Social Security or Medicare and PBS and Amtrack live on to see another day too. In other words, Obama is finally using his power to let the Republicans know who the boss is. That is what he should have been doing the past 4 years.
As Rep. I agree with you ...Obama will let us go off the cliff than claim to lower taxes to the Bush tax rates and call it Obama tax cuts!

Very smart but the smart people among us which is just a little less than 50% of all Americans who didn'tvote for him, will know the truth.

The rich people will move their money out of the Country resulting in less money to be spend over here...

Too bad for the ones who will suffer from that.

Socialism never worked and sooner than later you will run out of other peoples money!

But in the near future, I will start to use everything to my own benefit when it comesto health care...either by paying the penalty if that is saving us money or using it so we will benefit the most for the additional money we have to pay....and we will make sure no full time employees will be hired if we can have it t avoid paying health care...

I already pay $ 1400 every 2 month's with a $ 6000.- deductible...that is already way too high! No dental ins., etc.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Very smart but the smart people among us which is just a little less than 50% of all Americans
So what is that, about 47%?
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