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Old 12-10-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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its no less theft because the thief wears a government costume.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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How are taxes theft when they're one of the explicit powers of gov't that the Constitution authorizes?
Not everything the gument does or has done is morally or legally just. A la the internment of Japanese Americans in WWII. Just because special interests and lobbyist have concocted a tax monstrosity ... How Long is the US Tax Code? ... does not make it right or just. To put it in colloquial terms "it ain't their money".
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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Taking money from one person and giving it to another person is theft. It really is that simple.
How about taking one person's money and keeping it for themselves? Or taking one dollar, giving .15 of it back in public bribes for re-election, and keeping .85 ?

This isn't theft, it's just "creative finance" which is only taught at Yale and Harvard, and only to a select few.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: LA County
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The crazy talk of 'bribes' 'pay offs' and 'theft' when right wingers and anarchists speak of taxes deserves very little in the way of argument. One cannot argue with irrationality and expect a reasoned and rational dialogue.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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The "taxes are theft" claim is a good way of finding out if someone is raving loon or not. It's also 100% accurate. "No one should ever pay any taxes!"
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Now shall we move on?
yes shall we

if I earn $100 and the federal takes 40%, and the state takes 10% and the county (property) takes 20%...do you really think is fair that I only see $30 of the $100 I EARNED

what gives the 'government(S)' the right to TAKE MORE THAN HALF


it is theft, no matter how you slice it...especially since the government DOES NOTHING for the common man
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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How are taxes theft when they're one of the explicit powers of gov't that the Constitution authorizes?
the constitution authorized slavery too...doesnt mean its right

the constitution stated that senators were appointed by the state

the constitution states that only men (males) have the right to vote

the constitution states that taxes would be EVEN among the population...not a ''regressive so-called progressive income tax"

the constitution authorizes manditory conscription (draft)

the constitution states ANY THING NOT MENTIONED IN THE FIRST NINE AMENBDMENTS is UP TO THE STATES


do you really want to pay with words...eddie???
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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Sorry but that is way too complicated to read, I say taxes are still theft from my pocket when they're used for gov't programs I don't personally benefit from.
It is a sad day in America when understanding even an extraordinarily simple view of due process protections is "way too complicated."
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: LA County
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the constitution authorized slavery too...doesnt mean its right

the constitution stated that senators were appointed by the state

the constitution states that only men (males) have the right to vote

the constitution states that taxes would be EVEN among the population...not a ''regressive so-called progressive income tax"

the constitution authorizes manditory conscription (draft)

the constitution states ANY THING NOT MENTIONED IN THE FIRST NINE AMENBDMENTS is UP TO THE STATES


do you really want to pay with words...eddie???
unclear on concepts?

9th Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

that would be addressing the first EIGHT AMENDMENTS . Retained by the 'people' and not the states
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:04 PM
 
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Nowhere in the constitution does it allow for government to take from you to give to me. In fact, you as an individual are only entitled to one personal thing from the government....a defense attorney.
Do you suffer from some form of Topic Attention Deficit Disorder?

This thread is about the power to tax. If you would like to argue the constitutionality of expenditures, be my guest, but do it on your own thread.
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