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This puzzles me. Do we like funding other countries with our own dollar at the risk of our citizens not receiving their care? We do fund a lot of research, you are right. Others come here to use our money for it. Others come here to make more money off of us because they can. Why would we take on that financial burden when we are broke and have uninsured citizens? Funding our own research is different than funding the worlds.
I think we should require them to come up with their own funding and split the bill actually. We can't continue to fund the world for medical research and with our military since we are on the subject. America is like a hoarder. We just can't afford it anymore. It's not the citizen who is deciding this, it's the corporations looking to make money.
I do think this is a problem but solving it in my mind is different than yours. Yes, we fund the worlds pharma and no, we can't afford to do so anymore. We fund it off the backs of our citizens lack of health. It's really not acceptable to me.
This is why a reworking is in order. Take the good, fix the bad, etc. Some things we won't be able to change, but wasteful paperwork, useless testing, funding pharma from other countries, allowing care to be available to the middle class and not just the poor or rich would be a good start.
We do some things pretty well, but some are so bad it takes the whole system down. We need to address it, it's 2013, time to clean house and stop with the hoarding disorder. IMO, of course. Our people are becoming depressed, fat and ill. Time to wake up. We can't sit on the couch forever.
Food & lifestyle are keys. Just say we got the perfect national health system, what good will that do when Monsanto is pumping GMO's into the food supply and 70% of Americans are overweight. Connect the dots.
Not to mention the other poisons like high fructose corn syrup, arsenic rice and FrankenCorn.
Food & lifestyle are keys. Just say we got the perfect national health system, what good will that do when Monsanto is pumping GMO's into the food supply and 70% of Americans are overweight. Connect the dots.
Not to mention the other poisons like high fructose corn syrup, arsenic rice and FrankenCorn.
I totally agree, and it's all for profit and most of it kept secret. We live for the bottom line but unfortunately our majority is at the bottom of the barrel. No choices. FDA's a joke, and we suffer for money made by someone other than ourselves. We are fat, poisoned and unable to pay for the cure. It's gross, I agree. We are crying for help mentally and physically. IMO.
I totally agree, and it's all for profit and most of it kept secret. We live for the bottom line but unfortunately our majority is at the bottom of the barrel. No choices. FDA's a joke, and we suffer for money made by someone other than ourselves. We are fat, poisoned and unable to pay for the cure. It's gross, I agree. We are crying for help mentally and physically. IMO.
Yup-Just learned FDA just reviews food producers own tests, they aren't independent tests. Now who would I pick to do my tests if I was a manufacturer ?
To the poster who claimed the NHS is a "disaster in England" - please stop telling lies. While it's not perfect and while I am not advocating an NHS for America, I find your comments both ignorant of the facts and insulting. No wonder healthcare reform is so hard to achieve in the US when you have such widespread ignorance. The right-wing media machine has certainly been effective at brainwashing so many people.
Certainly the British are less happy than they were with NHS a few years ago--mostly because costs are going up (still far, far less than the U.S.--and they cover EVERYBODY).
Here is what is good about NHS:
The NHS' widely known strength is primary care. And time and again it has been shown that a strong primary-care system is at the heart of a healthy population. In part because of Britain's focus on primary care, the country has lower age-adjusted rates of diabetes (about half our rate), heart disease (about two-thirds our rate) and cancer (about half our rate), as shown in a 2006 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. And in terms of rates, this disparity between the two countries might be understated. Unlike Britain, the United States still has roughly 50 million people who may never have been screened for any of these diseases simply because they are uninsured.
It has its faults (mainly due to not always being organised as wlel as it could be) but its a **million times** better than the American system!
Medical care when you are sick or injured is not some sort of luxury that has to be "bought"! Noone should be denied it because they can't afford to pay for it. Human life cannot be measured by the size of someone's bank balance.
It appalls me to hear of people in the USA who can't afford to pay for healthcare. To me being treated by a doctor when you need it is a basic human right and it amazes me that in the so called "Land of the Free" you don't even have this right. What do the British think of the NHS? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers
The NHS is one of the most important factors for the majority of people in Britain when choosing which of the three main political parties to vote for.
Many of us complain about it for various reasons (it needs more spent on it, it needs privatising etc) but if any govt tried to do away with it there would be a national outcry.
It is probably the greatest creation of one of Britains socialist governments(1946). It makes sure that nobody is without some form of healthcare.
The NHS is an institution which is dear to our hearts, politicians meddle at their peril. It is not free though as we pay for it out of our taxes. It has its problems like waiting lists, top heavy management and it is a money pit but we would not have the American system. What do the British think of the NHS? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers
What works for us here in UK may not go down too well in USA.
I worked for an American company [abc News] here in London for 23 years and my one abiding impression of Americans is their dislike of anything remotely 'socialist', which they confuse with Communism.
I would just love a healthcare system that works! I honestly think healthcare was better 10-15 years ago when people were treated only when they were sick, and not so much preventative care. It's the sick that need medical attention, not the healthy! Plus, no wonder there is a strain on medicare...my husband's grandmother is 91 and has at least 1-3 Dr. appt's each week where they do nothing new most of the time. What is the point?
Also, why does insurance have to cost so much, and not cover everything?? At my old company, the insurance for a family was close to $800 a month! Deductibles were high too!
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My healthcare in the UK was never dictated by a bureaucrat. Decisions were made by me and my doctor alone, and whatever we decided was the right course of action was the course that was taken. The scope of care available to me was far, far wider than what is covered even by the ‘very good’ insurance policies I’ve had here in the US. There were no limits on the number of times I could see my doctor, or the number of tests/procedures/consultations/etc that I could have in a year (or month or lifetime…) Whatever was deemed medically necessary by my doctor was covered — period. In fact, I’ve experienced a lot more limitations on my care since I’ve moved back to the US — the most memorable of which was when I had to beg the insurance company to cover a single visit to a nutritionist
There is currently a debate in the US over the benefits and drawbacks of socializing medicine. I went to England, and my friend was run over by one of your beloved "Smart Cars." He only broke his arm, though. They took care of him, put a cast on him, and were pretty polite about it. They did all of this for free.
The surprise was the arrival of a doctor to see me fewer than 45 minutes after I arrived in A&E.
Given all the dreadful things we hear and read about the National Health Service, I was thinking that this couldn’t possibly be right. Surely I ought to have been waiting for at least three hours — maybe even three days?
The nurse in triage was extremely cheery, too. Efficient, compassionate, and nothing like those uncaring NHS nurses we hear about all the time.
My experience in a London NHS hospital was an eye-opener to me, not just because of all the negative publicity we read about the health service in this country, but also because it was so much better than the one I’d stayed in six months previously. That was a state-of-the-art, A-list celebrity-friendly, luxury American private hospital where doctors grab you by the wallet and say ‘cough’ before they’ll do anything else.
Leftists: "How dare conservatives want the government to limit what I can do with my body when it comes to abortion!!! But, I can think of nothing more perfect than having the government control every single healthcare choice for me (including abortion)."
Logic and reason will never see it's way into any argument of a Leftist.
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Now who would I pick to do my tests if I was a manufacturer ?
How disastrous is the NHS
