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Old 12-14-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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More school shootings, more workplace shootings, more serial killers, more murders, more violence, more people in jail....?

School shootings since 1996:


Interactive map of school shootings since 1996. | canada.com

Because most of those countries across the pond have banned most guns, if not all guns, and enforce the law. Only in America is it much more difficult to buy a house than buy a gun, get a drivers liscense, have a child, and buy a car. Our country is ass backwards.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Ok arming teachers is absolutely insane.

How about an armed security guard or two? The high school in my community has an officer roaming the halls at all times.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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Given the data in those two links, does the U.S. even qualify as a civilized country?
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:05 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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.....tap'n while driving...
don't!!!
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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That's not the basic choice. The choice is the gunman entering the classroom and shooting up the place, or entering the classroom and shooting the teacher while he is fumbling with the gun, and maybe the teacher gets off a round or two hitting the kids also.

Handguns are hard to control unless you spend like 2 hours a day training with them, and I think teachers do enough to not have to go through all that.

I'm for reasonable gun rights, but it's not reasonable to arm teachers in hopes of more exciting shootouts.
Maybe that's what it would take to finally get the right on the side of teachers. Arm them. They may even support a pension and benefits for them.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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You wouldn't win. You don't have the guns, they do. Good luck with taking them away. There are those who will die for their right to keep them.

You going to war on automobiles for killing people in car accidents? The liquor industry for making alcohol that caused people to die in drunk driving accidents???
That's their prerogative - but little kids shouldn't have to die for that right.

And booze and cars aren't manufactured for the purpose of killing.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: California
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According to Fox News, both father and brother of killer Adam Lanza are alive. Adam killed his mother and then went to school carrying his mother's guns. His mother is found dead in their house. Then how did he enter the school and why did he go to school???


I saw this too. If he killed his mom at home why go to her school and shoot up her classroom? And who was teaching that day? So much to still learn about this whole thing.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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The state with the highest gun crime per capita is Louisiana. They also have very lax gun laws. Maryland is second. They have fairly average gun laws. Mississippi is third. Same story as Louisiana. California is in 4th, very strict gun laws. Nevada is 5th, fairly lax gun laws but more strict than Mississippi and Louisiana.
Don't quote wikipedia.

DC has the strictest laws and has the highest gun homicides, homicides period and gun robberies statistically.

California has the highest number of gun crimes.

On the other end... Alaska has some of the most laws. When's the last time they had an actual school shooting.

Last edited by Ibginnie; 12-14-2012 at 04:45 PM.. Reason: off topic
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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They missed one, the Beslan Massacre.


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Beslan school hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Beslan school hostage crisis (also referred to as the Beslan school siege or Beslan massacre)[2][3][4] of early September 2004 lasted three days and involved the capture of over 1,100 people as hostages (including 777 children),[5] ending with the death of over 380 people. The crisis began when a group of armed separatist militants, mostly Ingush and Chechen, occupied School Number One (SNO) in the town of Beslan, North Ossetia (an autonomous republic in the North Caucasus region of the Russian Federation) on 1 September 2004. The hostage-takers were the Riyadus-Salikhin Battalion, sent by the Chechen separatist warlord Shamil Basayev, who demanded recognition of the independence of Chechnya at the UN and Russian withdrawal from Chechnya. On the third day of the standoff, Russian security forces entered the building with the use of tanks, incendiary rockets and other heavy weapons.[6] At least 334 hostages were killed as a result of the crisis, including 186 children,[7][8] with a significant number of people injured and reported missing.

That's a bomb hanging by the wire.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: England
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There are billions of people living in other countries where GUNS are illegal. The crime rate and death toll is 1% of that of USA. Are all those people punished??? How many people died in japan, Australia, germany, UK, canada this year becoz of shootings???
I, as an outsider just looking in despair. How many events like this will it take before the majority of Americans realise that guns easily aquired in America will make events like this happen? I have read on this thread that if guns were not available crazies would go in to schools with knives or explosives. How many schools do you read about in Europe were people run amok with knives or explosives? These events are very rare in Europe. Guns, which kill easily from a distance are the weapon of choice.

The gun lobby in America will make all the usual sympathetic noises, and how people, not guns, kill. More weapons are needed, not less. Teachers with guns can protect children etc etc. It is in the constitution the right to bear arms. God help you all.

My sympathies with the families who have lost family members, and their beloved children.
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