No true law abiding citizen would want to own an assualt weapon (Representatives, healthcare)
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That is not the only issue. There was a poster here calling gun owners psychopaths. It is sad such words get thrown around like this. Mental illness in this country is still a taboo for many people. It is looked down on. "You have depression?! You are crazy!" You don't think that might keep people from seeking help? Therapy is actually not a bad thing. I do think it takes a lot of courage to admit you have a problem and seeking help to address the issue.
Ironically, the people that blame mass killings on poor mental health do not support ready access to mental health care.
Find me evidence (link, report) that a gun ban in another country has resulted in extensive, further means of destruction / killing that surpassed earlier gun violence tolls, and, I'll be more inclined to agree with this statement.
How about China, Nazi Germany, the USSR during Stalin's time...
News reports, (including the medical examiner highlighting the number of bullets per body), state the gun utilized "most of the time" was indeed the AR-15. He used the handgun on himself.
Find me evidence (link, report) that a gun ban in another country has resulted in extensive, further means of destruction / killing that surpassed earlier gun violence tolls, and, I'll be more inclined to agree with this statement.
First, tell the president to stop sending these weapons down there.. (Fast and Furious). Secondly the president of Mexico knows full well that most of these weapons are manufactured outside of the US and can easily be imported from the manufacturers to the Cartel through "HIS" southern border and would be. Third, shut the border DOWN.. We can do it electronically as well as physically. I live on the border with Mexico and I will guarantee you that if there is a ban on these weapons, they will still come up through Mexico and be smuggled in across our southern border... GUARANTEED!!! Additionally, take a realistic approach rather than an all or nothing approach and you may get a workable plan.. I will tell you this though.. Even IF you get you BAN on "assault weapons" (which by definition is laughable), it is not going to stop this kind of thing from happening. Then what? Will you Ban all firearms? And when they switch to bomb making and kill even more violently and in larger numbers will you ban Diesel and Fertilizer? Where does it end? Fact is, it doesn't!!
If you re-read my earlier posts, it will be clear that I am not advocating for an all or nothing approach. I don't have the answer, but, I do think after this latest wave of indescribable loss, a discussion about what feasible and logical next steps is needed, using all evidence and fact from other countries, experiences, experts, policy, etc.
Bombs et al are already on the market, they used them in Columbine and Oklahoma City, however, the sheer accessibility of guns makes this I would assume the easier and more practical way to go. When you amend laws to facilitate some sort of control, and add on further regulation, as well as provide universal mental health care, (including reaching youth early on in school based settings), I think it'll be an easier problem to contain and address.
You are damn right I have the balls to do such a thing.
Semper Fi~
The balls to do what? Kill a whole bunch of people?
Look, I know your whole shtick: "You all should know that I'm a big shot killing machine who doesn't give a **** about anything because I was once in the Marines." Ok, we get it. You only make it abundantly clear in Every. Single. Post.
We really need to move beyond that and recognize that this nation has a problem. We're the only first-world nation that has these otherwise unheard-of levels of violence. If you're not willing to be part of the solution, then others will do the job.
If you re-read my earlier posts, it will be clear that I am not advocating for an all or nothing approach. I don't have the answer, but, I do think after this latest wave of indescribable loss, a discussion about what feasible and logical next steps is needed, using all evidence and fact from other countries, experiences, experts, policy, etc.
Bombs et al are already on the market, they used them in Columbine and Oklahoma City, however, the sheer accessibility of guns makes this I would assume the easier and more practical way to go. When you amend laws to facilitate some sort of control, and add on further regulation, as well as provide universal mental health care, (including reaching youth early on in school based settings), I think it'll be an easier problem to contain and address.
Part of what you are not understanding is that the US doesn't have the same composition or demographics as other countrys. Europe is not a good model and nor is Asia. It's much the same as comparing apples to watermelon.. We have a much larger land mass and we cannot enforce the laws that are currently on the books. If we did, a lot of these tragedys would be prevented from that alone. You can't legislate yourself out of harms way of a mad man. There simply isn't a means for us to do it. The enforcement of such a law would be virtually impossible because of our issues on our southern border. This is not to mention our coastal waterways that are also exposed.. We no longer have the luxury of a blank check either.. Our financial condition is not adequate to enforce our laws that are existing.
First, tell the president to stop sending these weapons down there.. (Fast and Furious). Secondly the president of Mexico knows full well that most of these weapons are manufactured outside of the US and can easily be imported from the manufacturers to the Cartel through "HIS" southern border and would be. Third, shut the border DOWN.. We can do it electronically as well as physically. I live on the border with Mexico and I will guarantee you that if there is a ban on these weapons, they will still come up through Mexico and be smuggled in across our southern border... GUARANTEED!!! Additionally, take a realistic approach rather than an all or nothing approach and you may get a workable plan.. I will tell you this though.. Even IF you get you BAN on "assault weapons" (which by definition is laughable), it is not going to stop this kind of thing from happening. Then what? Will you Ban all firearms? And when they switch to bomb making and kill even more violently and in larger numbers will you ban Diesel and Fertilizer? Where does it end? Fact is, it doesn't!!
Failed logic. If that was the case, we'd see similar things happening in countries like Canada, Japan, parts of Europe etc with very strict gun control laws. America has a gun problem and there is no denying it. The arrogance of the gun lobby in this country is killing America from the inside.
How about China, Nazi Germany, the USSR during Stalin's time...
Rates of gun-related death have significantly decreased in China post-the gun ban. Show me how violence from some other means post-the ban has exceeded original figures of deaths by gun violence pre-the ban.
Nazi Germany, "unfortunately for those who would like to link Hitler and the National Socialists with gun control, the entire premise for such an effort is false. German firearms legislation under Hitler, far from banning private ownership, actually facilitated the keeping and bearing of arms by German citizens by eliminating or ameliorating restrictive laws which had been enacted by the government preceding his: a left-center government which had contained a number of Jews. Hitler's government may be criticized for leaving certain restrictions and licensing requirements in the law, but the National Socialists had no intention of preventing law-abiding Germans from keeping or bearing arms. Again, the firearms law enacted by Hitler's government enhanced the rights of Germans to keep and bear arms; no new restrictions were added, and many pre-existing restrictions were relaxed or eliminated." I also think historical context and religious tensions has to be considered in this case, but, I digress...
Don't know enough about USSR during Stalin era, but link me and I'll review.
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