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Originally Posted by DentalFloss
See, here you are discussing something that you don't have enough knowledge about. Weapons are sold online, but only "sort of". I can go onto a myriad of websites and order a gun. The financial transaction will take place between me and the online site. BUT, they do not ship it to me. They ship it to a licensed dealer near me, where I have to pass a background check and meet the other requirements in order to take delivery. Online purchases are not any kind of loophole.
Americans are fond of showing outrage but not so fond of putting their money where their mouth is and tightening up gun control. They want to hold on to their guns ---and if the cost of this is 20 dead children every once in a while --- they don't care.
That is a classified ad purchased by a private party, not a licensed dealer. No background checks for private sales is commonly known as the "gun show loophole", but I think that leads to confusion. People assume that means ALL sales at gun shows don't require background checks and that's not true. Personally, I have no beef with requiring background checks for private sales, though no mechanism presently exists to allow it to happen.
Well, the U.S. is basically the only country in the developed world that doesn't license gun owners across the board and nearly the only one that does not require registering guns across the board. We could start there.
States with some form of both registration and licensing have greater success keeping firearms initially sold by dealers in the state from being recovered in crimes than states without such laws.
Well, the U.S. is basically the only country in the developed world that doesn't license gun owners across the board and nearly the only one that does not require registering guns across the board. We could start there.
OK.
How would that have prevented what happened in Newtown? How will it prevent the next one?
Well, the U.S. is basically the only country in the developed world that doesn't license gun owners across the board and nearly the only one that does not require registering guns across the board. We could start there.
States with some form of both registration and licensing have greater success keeping firearms initially sold by dealers in the state from being recovered in crimes than states without such laws.
Ban assault weapons.
Prove that claim (license/registration).
CT had an "assault weapon" ban. Little good that did.
How would that have prevented what happened in Newtown? How will it prevent the next one?
It wouldn't have affected the Newtown killings. However, these boards are full of strategies and suggestions for how to decrease the likelihood of another mass shooting.
You simply cannot win. The more you talk, the more guns are sold. The more you talk, the more you embolden the gun lobby to press harder. The more you talk, the more likely you are to cause dysfunction and disunion in this country. The more you talk, the more you embolden the far left, and people like Obama, to push for more regulations. Pushing for more regulations would be absolute political suicide for the left over the long-run.
You can't win liberals, but keep pushing. You will sow the seeds of your own destruction. Or even the destruction of this nation.
No they haven't. MD's Governor O'Malley and the gun control advocates in the Legislature are poised to impose even more restrictions on to MD's already tight restrictions. Already out there but not enforced yet because the technology isn't there, is the requirement that all handguns have biometric lockouts.
Ammunition restrictions and taxes have been floated for years with the unspoken agreement in Annapolis to not report them out of Committee now abandoned. Mail order ammunition to MD is already restricted so expect a total ban in this session.
There have been moves to classify firearms such as Browning Silvers and Maxus along with the Remington 1100 series as assault weapons. Expect those proposals to reach the floor for a vote.
Ammunition logs and registration have been unofficially required by the MD State Police in various Counties already. That's on the table.
I expect all, or almost all, the above proposals to pass in the 2013 session.
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