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Is it acceptable to you that 20 little children were slaughtered by a military assault rifle that was obtained legally by an unqualified citizen with a mentally unstable child in the house?
All I've seen is "Arm the teachers" That is not practical. That is idiotic.
So what are your suggestions on how we deal with this ever worsening situation?
Another thread on this subject???
The solution is for each school to appoint on faculty member to have access to a defensive firearm which is stored where it can be easily obtained. That faculty member will be required to attend firearms and safety training.
If no faculty member volunteers to be armed then the school should hire a armed security officer at the school's expense. The security officer must be approved by the school administration and be interviewed so as to not end up with an "Officer Tackleberry" type guy.
We need a dramatic shift toward looking at the problem and examining the causes instead of band aids on the symptom. Some bandaids can help but do not address the real issue.
The first would be to hire armed guards responsible for protecting people we lock away in "gun free" zones. "Gun Free" does not guarantee violence free and has been so obviously demonstrated. We have no right to treat these potential targets as irresponsibly as we are. If we remove their ability to defend themselves we are responsible for defending them even if it cost all of us higher taxes.
The second would be for mental health care people, including priests and preachers, to notify the police when they encountered a kid or adult this dangerous. In my opinion criminals and crazy people do not have the same civil rights as the rest of us because they do not obey the law or cannot be held responsible for their actions. I think they have to be separated from the sane and law abiding population. You know? US.
The problem with the second suggestion is it would require a substantial reduction in a personal privacy. This may do more damage to society than the occasional massacre.
Is it acceptable to you that 20 little children were slaughtered by a military assault rifle that was obtained legally by an unqualified citizen with a mentally unstable child in the house?
All I've seen is "Arm the teachers" That is not practical. That is idiotic.
So what are your suggestions on how we deal with this ever worsening situation?
I've offered several, but to recap for you...
1) Federal database of the (violently) mentally ill, integrated with the NICS (background check). What good are background checks if guys like Adam Lanza would still be able to buy a gun?
2) Simpler, more streamlined processed for enforced committment of the violently mentally ill (once we develop standards to define that).
3) Mandatory 5 year federal prison sentence for the theft of any firearm or possession of a stolen one.
4) Arm the teachers and/or administrators. If the millions of CCW holders in this country don't have a problem "loosing it", why would those in the education profession?
5) Increase the incidence of "open carry" so that criminals realize that actions may have consequences. It would have the side benefit of familiarizing the borderline neurotic that are scared of guns now and help them improve their mental health by realizing that a chunk of steel isn't going to go bang all on it's own.
It's a start. Do it for the children.
Last edited by Toyman at Jewel Lake; 12-20-2012 at 12:25 PM..
OK,It's a snow day so I'll bite...You won't agree with a single one of my personal suggestions but here it goes.....
1) Immediately confiscate, register, control, limit acess too any and all violent video games.
2) Cease and desist the mainstreaming of the mentally ill. Re-establish a modern institutional care network for same...
3) Return to society the importance, control, and power of the monogamous two parent male/female family units, With the power to discipline children.
4)Cease and desist the policy of making everyone a winner...Kids need to be taught that there are loser and winners....
5) Return firearm training to the elementary/middle school ciriculium where it used to be...
should I waste more band width???
I love number 3...
State Morality Inspector: "Good day Mrs. Wilson, we've been notified anonymously that your husband has absconded to parts unknown with an unattached female 15 years younger than himself, Is that so?
Mrs. Wilson: "Yes officer, I suppose it is...
SMI: "Well I'm sure you know how vital to your children's emotional and psychological well being a two parent household is... what efforts are you making to rectify this unacceptable situation, Mrs. Wilson?
MW: (sobbing) I... I.. don't know what to do... ...
SMI: (softening somewhat) Don't worry Mrs. Wilson, a state sanctioned male parental unit can be assigned to cover the remaining 12 years of your husbands marriage obligation at no charge to you beyond the usual sexual obligations specified in the existing marriage clause. Time is of the essence Mrs. Wilson. Either you find a new husband in the next 48 hours or the State will assign one. Have a good day...
What do you mean by "pro gun." My family hunts, we live in a rural area (farming and ranching country) and we have a case full of rifles and shotguns. We use them to 1) hunt, 2) kill wild critters when they're in the wrong place (like attacking livestock) or when they're dangerous to people, and 3) protect ourselves in the rare event that someone would try to break into our home (which has never happened, as it has never happened to anyone that we personally know). Still--people do have break ins out here, and law enforcement isn't just a few minutes away. I think you'd be surprised at the number of people like my family who would support regulation on high capacity magazines--the kind that let you shoot lots of ammo in seconds without reloading. It's driving me crazy that some on both sides of this issue are trying to make it black and white--either you're "pro gun" or "anti gun" when it's a lot more complicated than that.
That's the best answer from a gun owner I've seen. You cannot solve the problem tomorrow or next year or in 5 years. But I think we need to start taking first steps.
1) Ban all assault/assault type of weapons. This means the ones that are in existence as well. Turn them in for a check from the government. They are no longer acceptable. One year from now it becomes a felony to have one in your possession.
2) Ban all high ammo clips. No weapon will be able to hold more than 5 or 6 shells. All in existence that do not comply must be altered or destroyed.
3) Hand guns will be carried by people who can pass a criminal and a Psych screening. No one with mentally disturbed people in their houses can possess any kind of a firearm in their residence.
I think that is a good start. At least we are sending a message to the parents of the children in Newtown that we care.
The solution is for each school to appoint on faculty member to have access to a defensive firearm which is stored where it can be easily obtained. That faculty member will be required to attend firearms and safety training.
If no faculty member volunteers to be armed then the school should hire a armed security officer at the school's expense. The security officer must be approved by the school administration and be interviewed so as to not end up with an "Officer Tackleberry" type guy.
You know what? That is not a terrible idea. Even if it's a maint man who has some military background. As long as it's locked up and the person with access to it is certified.
That is way better than arming teachers
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