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Old 12-21-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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This pro-gun right wing union needs to go.

The NRA represents the worst in fanatical single issue ideologically extreme special interest groups. They thrive by promoting fear and paranoia. Every massacre of children increases gun sales for their donors. Today at conference, they were distracting public from talking about gun laws by blaming massacre on Hollywood, video games and instead talked about hiring more armed security guards on tax payer's money. An ideal business opportunity to boost more gun sales for their donors! The same right wing propagandizers discourage from talking about stricter gun control, funding mental health programs and ignore bullying that goes in schools and colleges that really do contribute to violence a lot more than movies.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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This pro-gun right wing union needs to go.

The NRA represents the worst in fanatical single issue ideologically extreme special interest groups. They thrive by promoting fear and paranoia. Every massacre of children increases gun sales for their donors. Today at conference, they were distracting public from talking about gun laws by blaming massacre on Hollywood, video games and instead talked about hiring more armed security guards on tax payer's money. An ideal business opportunity to boost more gun sales for their donors! The same right wing propagandizers discourage from talking about stricter gun control, funding mental health programs and ignore bullying that goes in schools and colleges that really do contribute to violence a lot more than movies.
You want to disband a group whose sole purpose is to defend the 2cnd amendment
very American of you to call for the disbanding of a group you do not agree with you
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Sure. While we're at it, lets disband every group we don't like.

Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol and Pinochet would approve.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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The only way it disbands is if people voluntarily quit joining it.
Obviously the o.p. knows or cares little for free speech
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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oh please


its the fascit liberals that never can get the point

the point is not the weapons, but the mental person behind the weapon

how about better mental testing

how about bringing back mental institutions instead of dropping them off at the nearest homeless shelter

the VT, aurora, and ct shooting were ALL done by individuals who has BEEN SEEN BY PROFESSIONALS and were not mentaly stable


liberals, who pushed for years to close institutions that hold the menatlly ill, calling them 'in-humane'


this kid should have been committed years ago

but liberals have pushed to close mental institutions/sanitariums because they want to call them "in-humane"

the point is if someone is mentall unstable.. and a danger to society..then they should be put in a place for protection

this started under CARTER....and was the liberals in congress that states institutions was ""in-humane""


Early 1980's: the liberal congress directed the Social Security Administration to pare the SSI and SSDI rolls. Social Security administrators responded by developing definitions of mental illness that diverged from those used in the past and those employed by mental health professionals. The resulting dislocations ultimately produced a public outcry that compelled the administration and Social Security to back down.
1981: The 1981 the Democrat controlled congress passed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act which repealed the provisions of the National Mental Health Systems Act, cut federal mental health and substance abuse allocations by twenty-five percent, and converted them to block grants disbursed with few strings attached. New York State, which used block-grant monies to fund community-based programs, and other states have to cut mental health programs.

1979 in Texas and around the country, state governments got this brilliant idea to close the state hospitals for being "inhumane" in favor of opening neighborhood outpatient centers. What they really wanted to do was take that money and blow it on their pet projects. All neighborhoods said not in our backyard. So you have mental patients on the street. Which incidentally indirectly affected Reagan personally when John Hinckley shot him.

Mayor Dianne Feinstein (now a us senator) gathered religious leaders together in 1982 to discuss a shocking wave of homeless people on city streets.

The solution, they thought, was to temporarily set up cots and soup kitchens in a few church basements.

What they didn't realize then was they faced the genesis of a generational crisis brought on by complicated social factors out of their control.

At the time, Feinstein said, she thought homelessness was only a temporary problem, and the solution was to provide short-term housing. Her attention was also split with the emerging AIDS epidemic.
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its like when you hear about the so-called ""AUTISM EPEDEMIC"""...prior to 1985 most childhoold autism was classified as """juvenile schitzipherenia"""(forgive my spelling) and retarded.....the percent of kids with (using an old outdated term) retardation/mental incompacity/autism has stayed mostly level...the difference is that instead of having 3 JS, 1 AUT, 6 retards (10 kids) out of 1000....now its just 10 autism/asperger out of 1000 (1 in 100)

the same with in the 80's when the liberals have many of the institutions closed because it was 'inhumane' to lock these people up....now they are the growing population of HOMELESS (85% of homeless at mentally ill).
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The problem with the mentally ill is that there really isn't some magic drug or treatment plan that will cure them all. They might decide they don't like some side effect of the drugs they were given and stop taking them. Or they might decide they like some of the street drugs better or in addition and make themselves worse.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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"That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up: and that the military shall be kept under strict subordination to and be governed by the civil powers."""-- James Madison

the 2nd amendment is very specific...the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED



""The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.""" James Madison, father of the constitution


the 2nd amendment is very specific...the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED


yes there ARE EXCEPTIONS:
yes if convicted of a crime you would lose that right..just like a felon loses the right to vote

yes if you are COMMITTED to an institution because you are a danger to society you would lose that right....as the gun man in CT SHOULD have been...but because liberals say that institutions are 'in-humane', we have a major problem of people with mental illness walking right next to us


""" the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed""""

keep= own
bear= carry

the right of the PEOPLE to own and carry arms shall not be infringed

the point is that you could BAN all guns COMPLETELY, and it wont stop something like this

it wont stop criminals and gangs from having guns...especially the ALREADY SEVERELY REGULATED assault FULL automatic gins like an UZI

thinks about this

Cocaine is COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.....competely BANNED.......even in the smallest amounts....yet we have a severe cocaine dealing problem

every year our agencies SIEZE over 150,000 KILOGRAMS of cocaine a year...and that is only about 1% of what is smuggled into the USA yearly.

1.5 million United States residents use cocaine at least once per month -a number that has remained relatively unchanged over the past decade, even though it is completely illegal, and their is a so-called "war on drugs"

New York and Delaware were the two states with the highest percentage of cocaine treatment admissions to hospitals and rehab facilities. For New York, that number was 212 admissions per 100,000 residents aged 12 or older.


banning guns will do NOTHING to prevent what happened..it will only BOLDEN the gangs and crooks because they will be the ones with the guns

BANNING GUNS gets more COPS and innocent civilians KILLED









lenin said this...."A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the people"

"Gun registration is not enough. Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." Janet Reno

"This year will go down in history. For the first time,
a civilised nation has full gun registration!
Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient,
and the world will follow our lead into the future!" Adolf Hitler


we all understand the liberal (progressive fascist) point

take the guns away from the people so the government isnt affraid of the people revolting
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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The only way it disbands is if people voluntarily quit joining it.
Obviously the o.p. knows or cares little for free speech
It's profoundly disturbing to see so little regard for personal freedom in "the land of the free". We're running low on brave people too, with so many hugging Daddy Barak's legs, begging him to keep them safe.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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This pro-gun right wing union needs to go.

The NRA represents the worst in fanatical single issue ideologically extreme special interest groups. They thrive by promoting fear and paranoia. Every massacre of children increases gun sales for their donors. Today at conference, they were distracting public from talking about gun laws by blaming massacre on Hollywood, video games and instead talked about hiring more armed security guards on tax payer's money. An ideal business opportunity to boost more gun sales for their donors! The same right wing propagandizers discourage from talking about stricter gun control, funding mental health programs and ignore bullying that goes in schools and colleges that really do contribute to violence a lot more than movies.

Hmmmm, I think I'll send the NRA a check today. Should be a good investment if we have
people who actually think as you walking around. Ya'll scare me!
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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This pro-gun right wing union needs to go.

The NRA represents the worst in fanatical single issue ideologically extreme special interest groups. They thrive by promoting fear and paranoia. Every massacre of children increases gun sales for their donors. Today at conference, they were distracting public from talking about gun laws by blaming massacre on Hollywood, video games and instead talked about hiring more armed security guards on tax payer's money. An ideal business opportunity to boost more gun sales for their donors! The same right wing propagandizers discourage from talking about stricter gun control, funding mental health programs and ignore bullying that goes in schools and colleges that really do contribute to violence a lot more than movies.
You obviously are clueless about the NRA.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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It's profoundly disturbing to see so little regard for personal freedom in "the land of the free". We're running low on brave people too, with so many hugging Daddy Barak's legs, begging him to keep them safe.
Not to mention, well-supplied with the good things in life, paid for, of course, with OPM (Other People's Money)
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