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Old 01-12-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The day after Morgan, as leaners say, owned it seems that a local TV reporter came up with some real numbers about what Morgan had to talk about in that interview. I remember Morgan repeatedly asking how many people were killed in the UK with guns and finally saying it was 35. That little local guy found a different number, not much different, but enough to make Morgan a liar. The number he found was 59.

Here is a chance to hear that local reporter who I don't think ever made it to any kind of MSM site.

TV Anchor Delivers Blistering Fact-Check of Piers Morgan?s Anti-Gun Claims
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Didn't you post this one already?

News about numbers used by Piers Morgan
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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56 in 2006-2007
53 in 2007-2008
39 in 2008-2009
39 in 2009-2010
58 in 2010-2011
39 in 2011/2012
Piers' 35 could be to-date numbers for 2012-2013
In any event it doesn't negate his point.

http://www.citizensreportuk.org/repo...olence-uk.html
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Didn't you post this one already?

News about numbers used by Piers Morgan
Maybe looking at the video may have answered your question without requiring your asking the question.

No, I certainly didn't post that link earlier.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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56 in 2006-2007
53 in 2007-2008
39 in 2008-2009
39 in 2009-2010
58 in 2010-2011
39 in 2011/2012
Piers' 35 could be to-date numbers for 2012-2013
In any event it doesn't negate his point.

Murders in the UK
It appears to me that Morgan is using whatever numbers appear good to him. The other TV anchor was trying to use yearly and I believe he was talking about 2011, the year Morgan was talking about.

It also appears to me that if he was using present dates it must be sometime in 2012 - sometime in 2013. We all know that he was using figures that would make his case appear better than they probably really are.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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Maybe looking at the video may have answered your question without requiring your asking the question.

No, I certainly didn't post that link earlier.
Then WHY are there two threads with the exact same name posted by you on the board?
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Then WHY are there two threads with the exact same name posted by you on the board?
So he can cry twice as hard about nobody watching his asinine videos.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
56 in 2006-2007
53 in 2007-2008
39 in 2008-2009
39 in 2009-2010
58 in 2010-2011
39 in 2011/2012
Piers' 35 could be to-date numbers for 2012-2013
In any event it doesn't negate his point.

Murders in the UK
He didn't have a point to begin with. Morgan wants us to believe that the difference is the result of different gun control laws of Britain vs. the US. Mexico has stringent gun control, not much different from Britain, and yet has a slightly higher rate of death by gunshot than even the US.

If we passed Brit/Mex style gun control tomorrow, a year from now would our numbers look more like Britain's or more like Mexico's? Morgan's sales pitch is obviously that it would be the former, but I don't see where he offers an argument as to why. In typical con-artist fashion he set up the outline and relies on the sucker's brain to fill in the blanks and draw the (incorrect)) conclusion. My money would be on the latter result, not the former.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Inwood
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Why does the OP always use blogs and extreme right links to prove his point, it's kind of sad.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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I read the UK's violent crime rate is twice the rate of the U.S. Haven't looked into it much though because it doesn't matter much. I suspect the drug war is a huge contributor to our gun violence.
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