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Saudi Arabia, Iran, Somalia, Uganda, Cameroon, Nigeria, Gaza - gems of places I'm sure any freedom loving person with the means to do so would move to.
Like America is a freedom loving country?
Pandering to deviants of all persuasions....
Largest prison population of any country on Earth (by far)....
It's citizens snooped on by government....
No search warrant required to break down your door at home....
Yep, a country for all freedom loving people's for sure.....
Only if your selling bibles and snake oil. Religion is other wise a drain on the economy. It takes out taxes to the local economy by setting aside property that does not get taxed, and takes money that fills the pockets of child molesters who do not pay taxes or buy things to build the local economy. Its nothing but a sink hole that is only good for the very few who sell everlasting life and no one has ever come back to say if its true of a load of crap. We all know its a load of crap.
Gay unions don't produce children - if children are produced by self-professed gays it is through selfish self-gratification outside the bounds of a union. Also - children are not pets to be bought, produced or adopted to fulfill your selfish sick fantasy/need to pretend you are a family.
I guess the elderly can't get married then, or any post-menopausal woman? I know a lovely couple, both in their 70s who are getting married. I suppose you would call them selfish pretenders?
Why do you feel that a marriage needs to produce offspring to be legitimate? This is not the days of plague, or the days when Catholics proclaimed that every sperm is sacred. If every time people had sex they reproduced can you imagine the population?
Why is a loving gay couple so harshly judged by you if they want to adopt a child in a foster home or orphanage? Heterosexuals account for 100 percent of unwanted births. Why not allow gay people to marry and help reduce the burden of finding homes for these children?
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But responsible people who consider sexual gratification a biological mechanism to increase intimacy and reinforce the bonds further securing an environment favorable to rear children consider the repercussions of their actions in regards to sexual behavior and act accordingly.
Selfish, self absorbed children obsessed with their pee-pee's consider it an end in itself. (imho, which is mine and mine alone, yours may certainly be different)
Other than the inability to produce a baby biologically, why can't the above bolded statement be applied to a committed gay couple? You don't believe that gay couples are capable of providing loving homes? I know personally of many who do. And I also know personally some straight women who had kids who shouldn't have.
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Setting reasonable expectations for what marriage is - basically the idea that someone else comes first in your life, that you accept a responsibility to provide and care for another, that your immediate gratification is less relevant than the well-being of those you commit to is a good start.
How does that not apply to gay couples? gay people can't feel that way as you describe above?
I know gay couples who are way more committed than a lot of straight couples.
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It's rather interesting that a married committed couple I knew waited years to get a child - yet gays and single women of affluence get their adopted children like puppies handed out at the pet store.
My gay cousin and her partner waited two years. It depends on your stability, job, income, etc. No, sorry, but your theory that gay and lesbian couples get first dibs on adoption is false. From what I have notices, gay couples are more willing to adopt foreign or babies of troubled homes, where straight couples may be more choosy.
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Little by little the world is coming back to it's senses.... besides Russia the latest countries are:
~ Uganda
~ Cameroon
~ Nigeria
In all, 38 countries in Africa have laws criminalizing homosexuality.
Go to any of those countries and see how "great" it is there. You would be running and screaming home in 30 minutes. hard to believe you would choose those countries to use as an example of great morality.
Now tell us what you think should happen to those "deviants of all persuasions," and what impact that would have on our prison population.
I was replying to a person who alluded that America is a free country.....
Typical, taking something out of context or just another ignorant person with a public school education who can't understand the context of what they read....
I guess the elderly can't get married then, or any post-menopausal woman? I know a lovely couple, both in their 70s who are getting married. I suppose you would call them selfish pretenders?
Ummm, only one of those three quotes your attribute to me I posted.....
I don't know any straight couple (don't know nor want to know any gay couples) who has adopted a child, nor do I ever launch into such flowery language.....
If this is what you call 'good traditional values', then I want no part of it.
I thought America was the land of free? Where all Americans - regardless of sex, age, ethnicity, and lifestyle choice - are granted equal rights, liberties, freedoms, and opportunities given to them by the Bill of Rights and Constitution of the United States?
What you want is oppression and quite frankly that's unpatriotic. Go take your Anti-American sentiment somewhere else.
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