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Old 01-28-2013, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Get over youself.... you guys were even worse when Bush was in office

Yawn..... the fake outrage is amazing as always from the left
Yeah, many liberals were pretty bad during the Bush era....though we were starting pointless wars with countries we shouldn't be occupying in the first place. But that is a different story.

 
Old 01-28-2013, 04:18 PM
 
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Yeah, many liberals were pretty bad during the Bush era....though we were starting pointless wars with countries we shouldn't be occupying in the first place. But that is a different story.
No, the core issue is the vile tone toward the president, no matter which party he is

It has been equally bad for both of them. I will admit that the right goes overboard with SOME of the Obama criticism
 
Old 01-28-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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The real problem isn't race, but what drives the violence up. If we're gonna dismiss it as a racial problem, then let's just say that its no big deal and be done with it. After all, this is mainly black and brown violence being committed within their own communities. Why should whites care about that?
Because it is far more than just black on black or brown on brown crime, it extends beyond those communities. The media sweeps it under the rug and suppresses it, but black on white crime is far more common than we think. Black thugs and gangs often target whites by choice for muggings, beatings, robberies, and rapes. Many whites are fed up with this and have armed themselves. Am rather surprised that there has not been a Bernhard Goetz Part II incident, the 1984 NYC subway shooting of four young black men that tried to mug Goetz. Perhaps there has been, but the public was never made aware of it.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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Because it is far more than just black on black or brown on brown crime, it extends beyond those communities. The media sweeps it under the rug and suppresses it, but black on white crime is far more common than we think. Black thugs and gangs often target whites by choice for muggings, beatings, robberies, and rapes. Many whites are fed up with this and have armed themselves. Am rather surprised that there has not been a Bernhard Goetz Part II incident, the 1984 NYC subway shooting of four young black men that tried to mug Goetz. Perhaps there has been, but the public was never made aware of it.
Inter racial violence is not that common it still happens, but most of the violence is intraracial.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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The reason for this, which also applies to the Scandinavian nations and to Japan, is a much more homogeneous population. Taking only the crime statistics committed by American non Hispanic whites would find those numbers compare quite favorably with those of other countries noted for low rates of violent crime. The single most important indicator for crime in an area is the percentage of non white residents. Before the liberals come out of the woodwork screaming racist, am well aware that there are some very safe black and Hispanic neighborhoods, and some all white ones that are very dangerous. However, "PC" or not, the fact is that blacks and latinos commit crimes at a far higher rate than do whites. This fact has been largely ignored and pushed into the background under the guise of being PC and not being racist or biased. Chicago, Detroit, Gary, Los Angeles, Stockton, and every other city of any size that are rated as the most crime ridden are all heavily minority populated.
Yet some of the safest areas in the country are all along the Mexican border and 90 percent or more Hispanic.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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Get over youself.... you guys were even worse when Bush was in office

Yawn..... the fake outrage is amazing as always from the left
I'm not outraged about anything. That would require passion on some level about the topic at hand. Me? I'm ambivalent.
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Because it is far more than just black on black or brown on brown crime, it extends beyond those communities. The media sweeps it under the rug and suppresses it, but black on white crime is far more common than we think. Black thugs and gangs often target whites by choice for muggings, beatings, robberies, and rapes. Many whites are fed up with this and have armed themselves. Am rather surprised that there has not been a Bernhard Goetz Part II incident, the 1984 NYC subway shooting of four young black men that tried to mug Goetz. Perhaps there has been, but the public was never made aware of it.
Read my post again. You obviously missed my whole point.

And don't waste my time with the whole "black on white crime" thing. I really don't give a damn about that.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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Because it is far more than just black on black or brown on brown crime, it extends beyond those communities. The media sweeps it under the rug and suppresses it, but black on white crime is far more common than we think. Black thugs and gangs often target whites by choice for muggings, beatings, robberies, and rapes. Many whites are fed up with this and have armed themselves. Am rather surprised that there has not been a Bernhard Goetz Part II incident, the 1984 NYC subway shooting of four young black men that tried to mug Goetz. Perhaps there has been, but the public was never made aware of it.
Consider this though. Who is the most likely to die at the hands of a Black man? Another Black man.

And I have a question for you. All of this mentioned about "Black crime", I really have to ask this. What exactly are you proposing? Nobody brings up "Black crime" unless they have an agenda, or some kind of public policy to propose, and usually a public policy that would harm persons like me.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Is it because Obama lived in Chicago?? Gary Indiana has a much higher homicide rate, as do many other cities.
Mostly because it is just another mindless why to some how bash the President by proxy. Not that any intelligent person buys it but the right wing is seldom accused of being intelligent.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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And I have a question for you. All of this mentioned about "Black crime", I really have to ask this. What exactly are you proposing? Nobody brings up "Black crime" unless they have an agenda, or some kind of public policy to propose, and usually a public policy that would harm persons like me.
The end of social engineering and official government policies, inplemented for decades by the political left, that has resulted in the destruction of the black family. Back in the 30's thru 50's, when black families were still intact, crime was far less common in their communities. This topic has been discussed before on this and other forums, for more insight on this subject, researching and reading the comments of Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, both elderly black educators and authors, is highly recommended.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 06:06 PM
 
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The end of social engineering and official government policies, inplemented for decades by the political left, that has resulted in the destruction of the black family. Back in the 30's thru 50's, when black families were still intact, crime was far less common in their communities. This topic has been discussed before on this and other forums, for more insight on this subject, researching and reading the comments of Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, both elderly black educators and authors, is highly recommended.
My big problem, however, was the way that you put it. You were putting as of "Blacks are a problem". I see it as this. The violence taking place among many poor Blacks is a symptom of other problems taking place.
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