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Old 01-30-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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Who cares about the economy? Let's ban guns and grant amnesty to 11M illegals. Sounds like a winning plan.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I love watching the liberal spin on this. Hilarious
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Since we only have one set of real world observations, and economic models are far from perfect (as witnessed with today's shocking GDP drop), we will never be able to disprove this idea.
The prediction from conservatives was that huge increases in the monetary base would cause devaluation, inflation and that big government deficits would cause big increases in interest rates. These predictions have been wrong for five years. That makes that model complete wrong.

In view of this failure, has there been any rethinking on the Austrian/Austerian side? Not at all. All I read are excuses, like, 'we would have had inflation except for the Europeans, or something' or 'it will happen some day.'

Conversely, the prediction that increasing the money base and big government deficits will be neither inflationary nor cause high interest rates, if the economy is in a liquidity trap, is a fundamental reaffirmation of Keynesian models -- and that's what actually happened.

As for QE and stimulus having positive effects, the CBO concluded here on the stimulus: http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...-2012-ARRA.pdf

The fact that the economy sank when government stopped spending is exactly what Keynesians said would happen and contrary to those who said that slashing spending would boost the economy.

One couldn't have a better test of competing models.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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I love watching the liberal spin on this. Hilarious
What spin? We cut spending and it slowed growth. Is that hard to understand?
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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Who cares about the economy? Let's ban guns and grant amnesty to 11M illegals. Sounds like a winning plan.
Or we could try the GOP's plan of reviving the economy by redefining rape.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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More information for Barack's presidential hut after he leaves office.
Mud or straw?

Can we deport the idiot communist back to his native Kenya?

Oh man, it's going to get bad!

GDP contracts on tepid inventories, government spending drop | Reuters

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Economists polled by Reuters had expected output to increase at a 1.1 percent rate. None of the economists surveyed had predicted a contraction.
Where's the word "unexpected"?

Oh wait, here it is.....

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WASHINGTON - The economy unexpectedly contracted in the fourth quarter, suffering its first decline since the recession ended more than three years ago as businesses scaled back on restocking and government spending plunged.
So the recession ended three years ago?
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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They fudged housing sales and unemployment stats, vote counts, guess business figures were too many to finagle with.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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See? This is what happens when you cut government spending which is about 25% of our GDP.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Who cares about the economy? Let's ban guns and grant amnesty to 11M illegals. Sounds like a winning plan.
You forgot about climate change.

The top priorities for this administration is gun control, immigration and climate change
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What spin? We cut spending and it slowed growth. Is that hard to understand?
Growth of what ..the defense industry ?
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