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Old 02-01-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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More bad news for the right wing.
Yup...things are just peachy!!!

8.5 Million Americans Left Labor Force In Obama's First Term

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Old 02-01-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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More bad news for the right wing.

DOW hits 14000! Closes in on all time high.
Why's that??? Im a filthy rich RWNJ, I live off of you proles work, I own the stocks.....

Work harder for me prole, FORWARD!!!
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Why's that??? Im a filthy rich RWNJ, I live off of you proles work, I own the stocks.....

Work harder for me prole, FORWARD!!!
Too bad i dont care if you have money or not
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Yup...things are just peachy!!!

8.5 Million Americans Left Labor Force In Obama's First Term

8.5 Million Americans Left Labor Force In Obama's First Term | NewsBusters
Not to burden this thread with perspective rather than vitriol, but there are several million people a year leaving the workforce due to the massive demographic bubble of retiring boomers and the lack of 21at century skills demanded in todays workplace.The labor market has not adjusted to the new demographics, and many of the people who lost their jobs will never get them back due to the mismatch of skills and jobs. there are millions of unfilled jobs in the US..just not the right people to fill them. It's a real problem. But again, the unemployment rate for those over 25 with a college degree is under 5 percent.


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Old 02-01-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Not to burden this thread with perspective rather than vitriol, but there are several million people a year leaving the workforce due to the massive demographic bubble of retiring boomers and the lack of 21at century skills demanded in todays workplace.The labor market has not adjusted to the new demographics, and many of the people who lost their jobs will never get them back due to the mismatch of skills and jobs. there are millions of unfilled jobs in the US..just not the right people to fill them. It's a real problem. But again, the unemployment rate for those over 25 with a college degree is under 5 percent.


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Oh, please do keep burdening us.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Again, this is what fueled the "recovery". The economic recovery illusion is bad news for us all; you, me, and everyone else.

That narrative makes no sense. The Fed doesn't buy stocks and the banks that receive liquidity aren't allowed to buy stocks. So, how does the Fed increasing the monetary base put money in the stock market?

What actual occurred is that corporate profits are generally good and the economic outlook is encouraging.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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That narrative makes no sense. The Fed doesn't buy stocks and the banks that receive liquidity aren't allowed to buy stocks. So, how does the Fed increasing the monetary base put money in the stock market?

What actual occurred is that corporate profits are generally good and the economic outlook is encouraging.
Much of the sudden increase in the monetary base, via stimulus and bailouts, went into the private sector. Now add in annual subsidies for unprofitable US industry (more federal spending into private sector), then realize that we have a consumer based economy perpetuated by a revolving and accruing cycle of debt.

To say they are unrelated is to not understand the economy whatsoever.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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Yup...things are just peachy!!!

8.5 Million Americans Left Labor Force In Obama's First Term

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Adding 157,000 jobs last month isn't a good thing?
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Not to burden this thread with perspective rather than vitriol, but there are several million people a year leaving the workforce due to the massive demographic bubble of retiring boomers and the lack of 21at century skills demanded in todays workplace.The labor market has not adjusted to the new demographics, and many of the people who lost their jobs will never get them back due to the mismatch of skills and jobs. there are millions of unfilled jobs in the US..just not the right people to fill them. It's a real problem. But again, the unemployment rate for those over 25 with a college degree is under 5 percent.


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From Paul krugman:
"A few days ago, I read an authoritative-sounding paper in The American Economic Review, one of the leading journals in the field, arguing at length that the nation’s high unemployment rate had deep structural roots and wasn’t amenable to any quick solution. The author’s diagnosis was that the U.S. economy just wasn’t flexible enough to cope with rapid technological change. The paper was especially critical of programs like unemployment insurance, which it argued actually hurt workers because they reduced the incentive to adjust.


O.K., there’s something I didn’t tell you: The paper in question was published in June 1939. Just a few months later, World War II broke out, and the United States — though not yet at war itself — began a large military buildup, finally providing fiscal stimulus on a scale commensurate with the depth of the slump. And, in the two years after that article about the impossibility of rapid job creation was published, U.S. nonfarm employment rose 20 percent — the equivalent of creating 26 million jobs today."
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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O.K., there’s something I didn’t tell you: The paper in question was published in June 1939. Just a few months later, World War II broke out, and the United States — though not yet at war itself — began a large military buildup, finally providing fiscal stimulus on a scale commensurate with the depth of the slump. And, in the two years after that article about the impossibility of rapid job creation was published, U.S. nonfarm employment rose 20 percent — the equivalent of creating 26 million jobs today."
I'll see your prehistoric example and raise you something a bit more modern:

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As Figure 13 shows, from approximately 1950 to 2010, increases in federal spending were associated with decreases in per-capita GDP growth.


Deliberate efforts to stimulate the US economy through government fiscal policy have been a formal part of the political economy for more than eighty years. The analysis uncovers a rich but at times confused history of efforts to spend our way out of recessions on the one hand but then deal later with an inflationary economy by way of monetary policy. While there can be appearances of strong favorable responses to fiscal medicine, the more rigorous statistical analysis of relationships between stimulus spending and GDP growth presented a mixed bag of evidence.
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