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View Poll Results: What do you think of the idea of whites becoming a Minority in America?
I don't want it to have a negative affect on America 5 8.62%
As long as the core principals of America is believe in we might be ok. 9 15.52%
Do you think it can be stopped? 7 12.07%
I think it will result in a less free, less prosperous nation 9 15.52%
I think it will result in a failing state like South Africa 8 13.79%
I think It will end in conflict 8 13.79%
I think it will end the American Culture as we have know it 14 24.14%
Other, explain 10 17.24%
Skin color does not matter culture and ideology does. 23 39.66%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-01-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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But 150 years ago, anti-Irish discrimination was rampant. "No Irish need apply" signs were often seen. They were arguably treated worse than Hispanics are today.

Anti-Irish sentiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Benjamin Franklin had anti -German feelings, as did many others down through the years. I think most groups go through this when they come in large enough numbers


Ben Franklin on "Stupid, Swarthy Germans" - Dialog International

 
Old 02-01-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: WA
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Agreed. Tho some of the different Indian groups def fought with each other doing things that WOULD be called war crimes in 2013.
True.

But the holier-than-thou narrative of white liberals strictly forbids any divergence from blaming the white man for destroying the supposedly harmonious utopia that was pre-colonial North America.
 
Old 02-01-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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True.

But the holier-than-thou narrative of white liberals strictly forbids any divergence from blaming the white man for destroying the supposedly harmonious utopia that was pre-colonial North America.
Who claimed it was a harmonious utopia (links or pics or it didn't happen). There's no way of getting around how racism and colonialism were the reason why genocide occurred to the native americans.
 
Old 02-01-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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"What will a white-minority US look like?"

Get an invite to the Congressional Black Caucus Weekend, Then hustle over to a Marc Anthony concert at the Kennedy Center... you'll get the picture and have a good time as well.
 
Old 02-01-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: WA
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Who claimed it was a harmonious utopia (links or pics or it didn't happen). There's no way of getting around how racism and colonialism were the reason why genocide occurred to the native americans.
"Harmonious utopia" is my choice of terminology, obviously.

And if you think for one second that I'm going to browse academic (or even non-academic) web links in order to prove that white ethnicities have been previously derided in media (Michael Moore) and academia (Ward Churchill) as, basically, the scourges of the Earth for their relations with Native tribes, then forget it.

The idea that North America's native tribes (even minus the instances of genocide) were better off without European settlers is nothing new or profound, and nobody needs an internet link to be familiar with it.
 
Old 02-01-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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1493?
 
Old 02-01-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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No American culture is as it was 50 years prior of any period. Who knows what'll it'll look like. Lets table this until 2040.
Don't you mean 2063? 2013+50

Wouldn't it be a better idea to hope that Americans aren't defined by the color of skin or origin of birth in fifty years?

The way Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have bastardized MLK's vision, maybe it isn't possible.
 
Old 02-01-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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Who claimed it was a harmonious utopia (links or pics or it didn't happen). There's no way of getting around how racism and colonialism were the reason why genocide occurred to the native americans.
Uh; was it straight "racism" that killed so many American Indians or was it the DISEASES brought by white people that did the killing? You gotta remember that MILLIONS of white people in Europe died from stuff like the Black Plague and so on. OTOH: it was pretty much a death sentence for most white people in central Africa back in the day because of different diseases.
 
Old 02-01-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Uh; MOST of what is now the US was NEVER owned by Spain so speaking Spanish ain't "normal" by your definition. Sheesh!


At one time or another Spain owned about 2/3 of the territory called the Lower 48 States of the USA. These territories consisted of Floridia and Spanish Florida included the Gulf Coast all the way to the Mississippi river. The Spanish explorers like Verrezano charted the Eastern Seaboard all the way up to New York and laid claim to it as well. Spain discovered the lands we now call Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, California Oregon, Washington State (clain established by an explorer named Juan de Fuca), The vast heartland of America called at one time Lousiana Territory was French but when France lost the war with Britain in 1760 Britain had the French give it to Spain, France didn't get it back until Napoleon Bonaparte forced Spain to give it back in 1800. The only part of the USA that wasn't owned by Spain was the Great Lakes region and the Ohio River Valley. Spain established colonies in the USA in some cases more than a century before the British even put a boot print anywhere in what became the Future USA. Spain had outposts at places like St Augustine FL, Corpus Christi (Spanish for the Body of Christ), Mission San Antonio de Behar (the Spanish built the Alamo) , El Paso del Norte, Alberquerque, and Santa Fe NM, Tucson AZ, Las Vegas NV, and in California in 1750s a chain of Missions that grew into towns and some great cities (Mission San Diego, Mission Santa Ana, Mission de Los Angeles, Mission Santa Barbara, Mission San Jose, Mission San Francisco). The British did not recongnize Spanish claims and strong armed the Spanish out of much of the Eastern US and the Pacific NW. The border between Oregon, Idaho and California, Nevada, Utah was estanlished by Spain and Britain by treaty. The USA invaded Spanish and later Mexican territory and occupied about 1/3 of what was once the Mexican State. Mexicans coming to what they call El Norte sometimes feel they are just coming home.
 
Old 02-01-2013, 08:10 PM
 
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The anglos were in the Carolinas, Georgia, Miss, Alabama, Arkansas MUCH longer than Spain was there. It don't matter anyway because the US whipped Mexico and Spain over 100 years ago. Word has it the ONLY reason we didn't take ALL of Mexico in 1848 was because the white racists in DC didn't want a bunch more Indians here.
The Spanish were in New Mexico as early as the 1540s. Florida was being settled by the Spanish earlier than that. The Spanish were here before the English were. The earliest settlement of the English was in Virginia in 1607.

And the only reason the USA got all that land is because started a war with Mexico.

Spanish is a big part of the USA's heritage.
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