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I spent about half an hour scanning the spreadsheet that is linked in the link you provided.
From what I read the shootings included many suicides, (a lot were suicides), home invasions, (where the bag guy was the one killed), self defense, persons shot by police, accidental deaths, hunting accidents, etc.
How many of the murders are gang on gang? I would bet quite a few.
How many committed by criminals? (Husbands or boyfriends that kill women are often repeat criminals).
Found some that were duplicates.
In my experience as a police officer and now as a flight paramedic, (for more years than I care to say), many of these woman stay in abusive relationships where the violence against them escalates over time to homicide.
Drugs and / or alcohol is almost always involved.
Illegal drugs are.... well..... already illegal. Do we need to ban the sale of alcohol too?
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Researchers at Harvard analyzed the literature on firearm availability and homicide, with the goal of evaluating the risks and benefits of owning a gun.
They reported that households with firearms are at a higher risk for homicide, and there is no net beneficial effect of firearm ownership.
In their review of international studies, they found that in high-income countries with more firearms, residents are at higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide.
They also looked at the U.S. as a whole, as well as cities, states, and regions and found a statistically significant gun prevalence-homicide association.
None of this proves causation but they concluded that the evidence is consistent with the premise that "increased gun prevalence increases the homicide rate."
* Roughly 16,272 murders were committed in the United States during 2008. Of these, about 10,886 or 67% were committed with firearms.[11]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[12]
* Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13][14][15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16]
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19]
* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]
* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]
* Roughly 16,272 murders were committed in the United States during 2008. Of these, about 10,886 or 67% were committed with firearms.[11]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[12]
* Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13][14][15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16]
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19]
* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]
* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]
Let's be honest. You have never asked that question and you probably don't care about the answer.
You are wrong, I ask it all the time. People either answer with a non-responce, or they just ignore me. Here is an example of the type of responses I get:
America has always been more violent than European countries, always. Even when the gun laws were similar America had a higher violence rate, but this has been dropping for a long time. Did it ever occur to you that it may have something to do with high income inequality, poor social safety net, and poor mental health system? The same factors that cause Russia to have significantly higher violent crime and homicide rates causes the USA to have high homicide rates. I recently read that the median income in NYC is $36K, which means half of the people make less than that, but still have the high cost of living; I bring this up because high income inequality tends to influence homicide rates. If you didn't have a way to make money you would probably turn to the drug trade, which is a perfectly reasonable response, but it is dangerous.
Apples and oranges. You are comparing us to a bunch of third world banana republics, that have out of control gun ownership. Where everybody is shooting everybody. And most of those European countries have in income inequality too, and generally a higher cost of living then the US. The one thing they have that the US doesn't have is gun control, and thats what makes the difference.
You are wrong, I ask it all the time. People either answer with a non-responce, or they just ignore me. Here is an example of the type of responses I get:
Apples and oranges. You are comparing us to a bunch of third world banana republics, that have out of control gun ownership. Where everybody is shooting everybody. And most of those European countries have in income inequality too, and generally a higher cost of living then the US. The one thing they have that the US doesn't have is gun control, and thats what makes the difference.
Russia isn't a third world banana republic.
Here is a graph of world income inequality:
There are alot of interactive graphs found HERE that I am not able to import over. The income distribution for the USA is 40.81 (2000) and for Russia it was 40.11 (2009).
When it comes to income distribution among OECD countries the USA is better than Mexico, Turkey, and Chile, but worse than every one else. Our rank is 33 out of 36. If you look at the income share of the top 10% the USA ranks between Iran and Liberia at 29.85. For comparison Russia is at 31.68 and Germany is at 22.07.
From the article:
"According to World Bank data, income inequality tends to be lower in Northern Europe, with countries such as Sweden, Norway and Finland showing some of the world's lowest GINI coefficients.
In the late 2000s, Chile had the highest GINI coefficient, after taxes and transfers, among OECD member countries. The United States, Turkey and Mexico came right before it. At the other end of the scale, Slovenia, Denmark and Norway led the ranking with the lowest levels of income inequality."
If gun laws are the only thing that matter then socioeconomic factors are not important. If you don't think Russia is a good comparison then you are in fact admitting that socioeconomic factors matter
And their homicide rate has decreased by two-thirds in the last 10 years, while the rate in the US has remained fairly steady. Which means that eventually it will be less then the US. Unless we somehow manage to get the gunnuts under control in this country.
And their homicide rate has decreased by two-thirds in the last 10 years, while the rate in the US has remained fairly steady. Which means that eventually it will be less then the US. Unless we somehow manage to get the gunnuts under control in this country.
What do you propose is done on a federal level?
Please make sure that your proposal is constitutional, because gun rights are civil rights and the same care and caution that is applied to the first amendment will need to be applied to the second amendment.
An easy test for this is any idea you have replace the word gun with newspaper and see if that passes constitutional muster.
Do a little research. The US has a very high homicide rate even if you eliminate gun deaths.
Demographics ......
yep, more homicides in urban ares vs rural areas.
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