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I was wondering when this would spring up on here. It was actually a shooting spree that started with a carjacking. The cops haven't really said anything about it.
Looks like it started around 0430 with a domestic shooting of some kind at a residence in Ladera Hts. The suspect shot an adult female to death, then went on a rampage through Tustin, shooting people at random, sometimes taking their cars. When the cops finally cornered him around 0530 in Santa Ana, he blew his head off with a shotgun.
The man with the gun didn't make it. Does that answer your question???? What if he had two guns?????? Or a fully automatic rifle instead, yeah, that's the ticket
Yeah the cops rained on his parade.. the SOB should have surrendered after all on Cal he would have been a friggin hero...
No doubt the bad guy was a liberal wacko fruitcake. Same MO every time..
First, you're factually incorrect as most gun control in this state is at the county or city level. Next...
Upwards of 80% of the guns used in crimes come from straw buyers. Basically, someone drives to a state with weak gun laws, buys a truck load of guns, drives back and then resells them at a big mark up to people who can't pass a background check. This is why we need universal background checks, to make it illegal to sell a gun unless you are a licensed gun dealer, and there needs to be a universal gun registry so we can identify who the straw buyers are as well as who the dirty gun dealers who are selling to criminals are.
No doubt the bad guy was a liberal wacko fruitcake. .
He was a murderer. He opened fire on motorists on one of the busiest freeway intersections in Southern California. He murdered someone in his home and then executed two innocent people who will not be going home to their families tonight.
But turning a tragedy into your very own, personal political rant is noted. Gosh, your mom must be proud.
Upwards of 80% of the guns used in crimes come from straw buyers. Basically, someone drives to a state with weak gun laws, buys a truck load of guns, drives back and then resells them at a big mark up to people who can't pass a background check.
I'd love to see some proof of that claim. I would believe that 80% of gun crimes are done with stolen guns but your claim sounds like complete BS.
First, you're factually incorrect as most gun control in this state is at the county or city level. Next...
No. The state of California has strict gun control. That is a fact. They are THE highest rated state by the Brady Campaign. Your statement is completely unsubstantiated, and a lie.
California even has state preemption of all things. You have no clue what you're talking about.
The ONLY thing that varies to any notable degree is carry permits. And even then, almost all of the more populous districts are very restrictive may-issue in practice.
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Upwards of 80% of the guns used in crimes come from straw buyers.
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Basically, someone drives to a state with weak gun laws, buys a truck load of guns, drives back and then resells them at a big mark up to people who can't pass a background check. This is why we need universal background checks, to make it illegal to sell a gun unless you are a licensed gun dealer, and there needs to be a universal gun registry so we can identify who the straw buyers are as well as who the dirty gun dealers who are selling to criminals are.
Okay, time out. Are you saying that a law requiring universal background checks will stop straw purchases and black market gun dealers? Really? Are you kidding me?
First off, as it currently stands, what those people do is ALREADY ILLEGAL. You can not just go "buy a truck load of guns" with the intent of selling for a profit. The laws concerning private firearms sales do not apply to this. Legally, those people are acting as dealers, and can not legally operate without being licensed.
On top of that, it is explicitly illegal to purchase even a single gun as a straw purchase.
But of course rather than do something useful, your solution is to suggest we make it even more illegal than it already is. Yeah, that'll stop em.
Second off, you can not sell to someone who you have reason to believe could not acquire a firearm legally. As a black market gun dealer who's business model depends on this, you are breaking the law, period.
Third, a gun registry is useless for both of those purposes. Guns already have serial numbers which can be used to trace them to the last dealer and the straw buyer if applicable. More pointless methods intended for control rather than results. Either that or you're just ignorant of the current laws, so you want to add more.
Oh and fourth, despite what you've convinced yourself of, you can't just drive down south and buy a bunch of handguns from any legit dealer. You have to be a resident of that particular state.
By the way, for handguns, which are the most common type of gun used in crimes by far, California already does not allow private sales.
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On the same day that Dear Leader's subordinate Biden advocates this is the weapon us loony gun rights advocates should be owning.
Irony's a -----.
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