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Old 03-01-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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"His policies" have not done this.

American cowboy capitalism has done this.

American wages, ajusted for inflation, have not risen appreciably (if at all) over the past 30 years.

However, the management class continues to see exponential gains in income.


But yeah, it's "Obama" that's the problem.... him and every other "job creator" that doles out 1% or no raises per year while paying themselves and their friends multi-million dollar executive bonuses and working to destroy labor unions. They even sit on each other's boards so they can vote for high salaries and bonuses for each other, for all the great profits their making for themselves and shareholders!

Job creators will pay the bare minimum they can get away with. There is no longer a sense of duty to one's employees, who are expendable cogs.

That's the reality. Democrat, Republican, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Bush... ROMNEY (King of slash and burn).... you've got your head in the sand if you think otherwise!
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yes it is. His policies have taken cash out of main street and put it into Wall Street. Does he not have the exact same Fed Chairman as Bush? Geithner and Lew are both Wall Street's hand picked guys.

Now when I say that someone is going to jump all over me for thinking I'm saying Romney would have been better. Romney would have been the same.

Stop voting for the two main parties. Neither cares one bit about you.
The problem is finding a third party candidate who has a viable shot at winning.

I'm kinda hoping Christie sees the light and tells both major parties to pi$$ off, he might have a real chance but it's still going to be awfully hard to go up against the $$$ of the 2 major parties.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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In addition, many corporations gave out their bonuses and dividends in December so as to avoid higher taxes on those that would be effected by the upper income tax increases.

Good for them.

Seems like a perfectly sound and rational thing to do.

It's exactly what I would in a similar situation.

And so would you.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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The Obama administration continues to deliver............................economic misery to the US. The policies of high taxes, increased regulations, no use of federal lands for energy exploration, and the burden of Obamacare continues to erode the standard of living and wages in America. Dems and the libs OWN this economy, as thier policies have done nothing but perpetuate poor economic activity.

Consumer Spending in U.S. Climbs Even as Taxes Hurt Incomes - Bloomberg
Talk about spin.

The decline is the result of the expiration of a temporary payroll tax cut that the Obama Administration itself had promoted.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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The problem is finding a third party candidate who has a viable shot at winning.

I'm kinda hoping Christie sees the light and tells both major parties to pi$$ off, he might have a real chance but it's still going to be awfully hard to go up against the $$$ of the 2 major parties.
Even if the one you pick doesn't win, you can clear your conscience and know that you weren't a part of the problem.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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So it must also be Obama's fault so many corporations have had record profits and been sitting on record amounts of ca$h too, eh? What are you whining about? You righties worship corporations while looking down on the average working guy.
What's that got to do with anything?

Absolutley nothing.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Talk about spin.

The decline is the result of the expiration of a temporary payroll tax cut that the Obama Administration itself had promoted.
The same tax he later increased?

I thought tax increases helped the economy? That's what Democrats have been telling us for years.

Are you saying Democrats are liars or just economically naive?

And to blame the decline on a tax increase you first have to prove the tax decrease helped the economy. There is no evidence that the payroll tax decrease helped the economy. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What's that got to do with anything?

Absolutley nothing.



Oh, I see!

If it's bad it's Obama's fault, if it's good it has absolutely nothing to do with Obama or anything else.

Thanks for explaining the right wing fantasy
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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And record setting unemployment! He has had 8% or higher unemployment for more months than every other President combined.
More then all the months added up over the past 60 years. Obama's presidency is historically bad for our nation, in so many ways.

It's so bad under Obama, that even spending $6 trillion in new debt, and even the printing of trillions more dollars by the Federal Reserve can't make it better.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:46 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Even if the one you pick doesn't win, you can clear your conscience and know that you weren't a part of the problem.
I'd feel part of the problem if the worse of the 2 evils wins.
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