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I seriously doubt this is what she said "Don't Rape" is about raising better young men, not stopping a rape during the crime.
Almost all rape victims know their attacker. This should not be news to anyone who has done even a tiny bit of research.
I'm liberal but not anti-gun so I won't comment on the gun part.
I'm not sure what the problem is here, Rape isn't a woman problem, it's a man problem. Almost 100% of rapes are purported by men, so raise better young men and you'll decrease rapes, this is a fact.
The "Don't Rape" piece is an attempt to change the culture of "well she was dressed like..." and "she was asking for it" and "she may have been really drunk but she never said no" and "Well she came back to my room, what did she expect?."
I teach sex education, while it may seem silly to say "Don't rape" it is NOT a message that has been used before. We have, historically, focused all our anti-rape education on women, that is only a piece of the puzzle.
1 in 6 US women has experienced attempted or completed sexual assault. All and ANY education we can have to change that statistic is a good thing, not something that should be mocked.
Can we also teach women not to falsely claim rape? I'm pretty sure most guys, if not all guys, know not to rape
I think you are missing the point, it's a total picture, lots of pieces.
You'd be surprised how many guys truly don't understand the ethics and legal responsibility with regards to sexual consent. I'm not talking about jumping a stranger in an ally and raping her, that is a very minor percentage of total rapes in the US.
Date rape and acquaintance rape, sex without consent while under the influence, these are all much more prevalent. Learning about consent should be taught just as much as we teach women how to defend themselves... and it's NOT, because we assume "I'm pretty sure most guys, if not all guys, know not to rape."
No, women shouldn't falsely accuse a man of rape, no one is teaching them that they should. Conversely, don't assume an accusation of rape that doesn't result in a legal conviction was a false accusation. Rape is one of the most under-reported crimes precisely because proving rape can be very difficult in a court of law.
Getting back to the point of "Don't Rape"
Quote:
"Society needs to establish a zero tolerance for sexual violence. Instead of saying, 'don't get raped,' which shifts the responsibility onto a potential victim, the message should be 'don't rape' and focus on holding perpetrators accountable," —Tracy Cox, communications director of the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.
How do you figure that? We might have alot of sex but we get consent first. The odds of getting raped in the USA is lower than either UK or Australia.
It's obvious by reading some of the threads/posts in the forum. If they {CONS-conservatives} were getting any, they wouldn't be like a bunch of angry birds. Which most who post these types of troll threads without any links to back up a STORY are, UPTIGHT and always crying and whining about LIBERALS. Don't you think it's time for the CONS to get a life?
I think you are missing the point, it's a total picture, lots of pieces.
You'd be surprised how many guys truly don't understand the ethics and legal responsibility with regards to sexual consent. I'm not talking about jumping a stranger in an ally and raping her, that is a very minor percentage of total rapes in the US.
Date rape and acquaintance rape, sex without consent while under the influence, these are all much more prevalent. Learning about consent should be taught just as much as we teach women how to defend themselves... and it's NOT, because we assume "I'm pretty sure most guys, if not all guys, know not to rape."
It is probably a better idea just to teach guys what the local laws are on rape. In some places even if a woman gives consent it is not really consent if she has alcohol in her system which completely ignores the fact that guys usually consume the same amount or if the woman was engaging in the act as well. In other places the rapist has to know that the woman cannot give consent and in others a woman can withdraw consent the morning after.
It's obvious by reading some of the threads/posts in the forum. If they {CONS-conservatives} were getting any, they wouldn't be like a bunch of angry birds. Which most who post these types of troll threads without any links to back up a STORY are, UPTIGHT and always crying and whining about LIBERALS. Don't you think it's time for the CONS to get a life?
The graphic? what about unreported? auto-skewed.
Rape isn't really comparable across countries because of different standards and definitions of rape, but I put in the graphic to show the idiocy of thinking saying no is going to be enough to stop a rape.
I think you are missing the point, it's a total picture, lots of pieces.
You'd be surprised how many guys truly don't understand the ethics and legal responsibility with regards to sexual consent. I'm not talking about jumping a stranger in an ally and raping her, that is a very minor percentage of total rapes in the US.
Date rape and acquaintance rape, sex without consent while under the influence, these are all much more prevalent. Learning about consent should be taught just as much as we teach women how to defend themselves... and it's NOT, because we assume "I'm pretty sure most guys, if not all guys, know not to rape."
No, women shouldn't falsely accuse a man of rape, no one is teaching them that they should. Conversely, don't assume an accusation of rape that doesn't result in a legal conviction was a false accusation. Rape is one of the most under-reported crimes precisely because proving rape can be very difficult in a court of law.
Quote:
Getting back to the point of "Don't Rape" "Society needs to establish a zero tolerance for sexual violence. Instead of saying, 'don't get raped,' which shifts the responsibility onto a potential victim, the message should be 'don't rape' and focus on holding perpetrators accountable," —Tracy Cox, communications director of the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.
It is probably a better idea just to teach guys what the local laws are on rape. In some places even if a woman gives consent it is not really consent if she has alcohol in her system which completely ignores the fact that guys usually consume the same amount or if the woman was engaging in the act as well. In other places the rapist has to know that the woman cannot give consent and in others a woman can withdraw consent the morning after.
That is exaclty what we are doing, as I said, "Don't Rape" is the overly simplified slogan of a much larger and more detailed campaign and education to teach young men the ethics and legal responsibility with regards to sexual consent.
Anyone who thinks "Don't Rape" is something being taught or encouraged as a way to stop rape while the crime is happening is either grossly misguided or being willfully ignorant.
So, you don't know who said it, where you heard it, or what her actual political leanings were and we're supposed to believe this?
Booby Jindal told the GOP to stop being the stupid party, apparently that's not working either.
So you base your opinions and decide what's right and what's wrong based on:
1. The name of the person saying something.
2. The location that person is in.
3. You need to know whether she's an R or a D before you decide if she's credible.
Yanno, somehow that doesn't surprise me. It certainly does seem to be how non-thinking liberals form their opinions.
OK, here ya go:
1. Her name is Jane Doe.
2. She was on the MadCow show.
3. She's an I.
Does that help? No?
Let me try again:
1. Her name is Margaret Smith.
2. She was on the Piers Morgan show.
3. She's a Green party member.
Does that help? No?
You're on your own.
YOUR post proves for once and for all that liberals simply can NOT think for themselves. Period.
I see that the doughty C-D RWJNs don't get it. No surprise, of course. This is a CONCEPT that is widely argued by women's advocates. It's pretty big-picture, so of course most of you don't understand.
WHY should we have to dress a certain way, go only to certain places, and carry weapons when the REAL problem is the rapist? If men didn't think it acceptable to rape (and to blame the victim), none of this would be necessary. Instead, it's all on the women to come up with defenses against something that men should be taught is a crime, shameful, horrendous.
If this woman was raped by someone she knows, it's someone who seems normal but somewhere got the message that it's OK TO RAPE. Just "boys being boys." It's the woman's fault for not have a gun, dressing wrong, or going to the wrong place. None of you nutbags will be able to wrap your brains around this, and it's MUCH more fun to make fun of a rape victim, so have it it. Just don't expect sane people to listen to you.
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"Don't Rape" is about raising better young men, not stopping a rape during the crime.
Conversely, don't assume an accusation of rape that doesn't result in a legal conviction was a false accusation. Rape is one of the most under-reported crimes precisely because proving rape can be very difficult in a court of law.
They already have a life.
