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Not even the same argument. Those thousands of Americans working in those areas are either extremely specialized or work for American companies.
H1B are directly lower wages in the US.
Exactly, here they are working for a lot less while people from the US working abroad generally make much more than they would working here. 15 years ago if I would have went to Australia to work I'd be making double than my hourly wage at that time.
Corporate scam, I think. If there is, indeed, a lack of talent for certain skills in the US, then it's the fault of universities for not promoting the STEM programs, but instead tacidly encouraging idiot students for taking degrees in basket weaving or potty training. H1B visas are primarily used by industries to increase the supply of labor of a certain field to lower wages/salaries, especially if they aggressively recruit people from developing nations, such as India. An equally talented European worker would not accept the job without a decent benefits package and pay, the Indian would most likely think any benefits package and pay is much better than what they have now
Corporate America creates job descriptions, education and experience qualifications and establishes compensation based on supply and demand. VISA employees are paid no different than their U.S. counterparts and get the same benefits.
Students who are drawn to non- technical degrees are not likely or capable of pursuing technical degrees. This does not make them idiots.
I see nothing wrong with global recruiting of the best and brightest the world has to offer. If anything, this select group can and will command better compensation than less qualified people.
Was Sen Dick Durbin making this up or just lying when he stated:
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"Our bill would require that before an employer may hire an H -1B worker, the employer must first advertise the job opening to American workers for 30 days on the Department of Labor Web site."
"Some companies that abuse the H -1B visa program are so brazen, they say “no Americans need apply†in their job advertisements. Hundreds of such ads have been posted on line. They say things such as “H -1B visa holders only†or “we require candidates for H -1B from India.†Is that what we have in mind, to create this perverse discrimination against American workers?"
"The legislation we have introduced would overhaul the H -1B program, protecting American workers first, and stopping H -1Bs from being exploited as outsourcing visas."
Durbin should have a discussion about H-1B's with Hilary Clinton. At the initial stages of her 2007 campaign she delivered a talk to Silicon Valley execs stating that the U.S. needed to increase its H-1B imports for technical workers.
Research > Clinton, H1B, Guptka, private jet, IT, India
Explain why programming salaries are flat? Explain why experienced American programmers are unemployed?
You said they have been flat for 20 years, but I have no clue what you are talking about. Do you have a link to prove it? I have been in the field for over 20 years, and I simply do not see what you are talking about. It is true that 2000-2010 the salary growth was slow, but that applied to every sector and has nothing to do with H1B, but with the way the economy had been going in general. In 1990 - 2000 IT salaries were going through the roof, and that was the peak of the H1B season.
Median salary for a Software Engineer is 91K, and in 1993 that would have been nowhere near the median.
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Explain why experienced American programmers are unemployed?
Programming and manufacturing have much in common. Both sectors have changed over time as lower cost producers and advances in technology have occured.
Code generators/compilers/optimizers have made programming more efficient.
Programming is one of the most common IT functions to outsource to the lowest cost producers.
Bottomline, no one is going to pay more for a product so that a U.S. worker can make more.
The price of everything is directly related to the cost of production.
Depends on the commodity. In automotive, production is only about 10% which is sort of funny because the media makes it sound like all those high paid production jobs is what was killing the Detroit 3.
I work in rf engineering, and I'm American born and breed. However many, if not most, of the colleagues I work with are native of foreign countries on H1B. There aren't enough folks here in this country that know this line of work. So yeah, we need the immigrants.
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