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Old 03-16-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Glacierworks

Using scientific research and photographs from then and now, you can see how much of the glaciers are melting and disappearing. Global warming? Maybe. Natural cycle of earth warming? Maybe. I don't have the answer.

All I can say is, at least for now, its a damn shame.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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The same thing is happening to the Swiss Alps. It is projected that they will be gone in about 50 years.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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Im sure cavemen felt the same way when glaciers scoured the land of trees and grass.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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Why is glacierworks so anti-science?

The Himalayas are sometimes called the world's "third pole" because they are covered with thousands of glaciers. Water from those glaciers helps feed some of the world's most important rivers, including the Ganges and the Indus. And as those glaciers melt, they will contribute to rising sea levels.

So a lot is at stake in understanding these glaciers and how they will respond in a warming world. Researchers writing in the latest issue of Science magazine make it clear they are still struggling at that task.

Just a few years ago, it seemed that the Himalayas were on the brink of disaster. The U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) made alarming claims about the fate of all that ice. You can almost see Jeffrey Kargel at the University of Arizona cringe as he describes it.

"One page had the most egregious errors you could imagine, just one after another, including the claim that the glaciers would disappear by 2035," he says.

But the claim was dead wrong. The error put a lot of egg on the face of the IPCC. But it also sent glacier scientists scrambling. They knew very little about the state and the fate of those glaciers, even the basics.


Melt Or Grow? Fate Of Himalayan Glaciers Unknown : NPR
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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Glaciers used to cover parts of the US too. Now they don't. I don't think there were SUV's warming the planet at the time.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Look, at this point there are either to many stupid people to care, or nothing that can be done to fix it. So we are at the point where well have to let a bunch of stupid people die from lack of food or water, and the earth will balance itself out, or we will completely die off as a species.

But its obvious not enough people care about the environment to do anything, and that are social, economic, and political model we've created is incapable of dealing with this. So, let a few hundred million die out, and we will learn our lesson
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Look, at this point there are either to many stupid people to care, or nothing that can be done to fix it. So we are at the point where well have to let a bunch of stupid people die from lack of food or water, and the earth will balance itself out, or we will completely die off as a species.

But its obvious not enough people care about the environment to do anything, and that are social, economic, and political model we've created is incapable of dealing with this. So, let a few hundred million die out, and we will learn our lesson
So you own a car? How about heat and A/C? Humans have a carbon footprint.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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Yeah the ethanol mandate and other ag policies that reward farmers not grow food crops are going to look more and more stupid.
China killed millions off with centrally planned agriculture ( state run )
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Glacierworks

Using scientific research and photographs from then and now, you can see how much of the glaciers are melting and disappearing. Global warming? Maybe. Natural cycle of earth warming? Maybe. I don't have the answer.

All I can say is, at least for now, its a damn shame.
Then it's about time for someone to build a electric generation plant near it and use the melted ice for cooling it.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So you own a car? How about heat and A/C? Humans have a carbon footprint.
I sure do. I have never said, please check various threads, that we should change our lifestyle or destroy our economy to end global climate change. For one thing, we don't know it'll change anything, another then what's the point?


But when people start talking about pushing, slowly, economics towards alternatives, or that oil is over subsidized, suddenly you're a green freak tree hugger liberal.


There is a difference between acting responsibly, and being moronic
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