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Old 10-26-2013, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The first clue that this thread was started by a "tolerant" liberal was the word "zero-tolerance" in the title.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The first clue that this thread was started by a "tolerant" liberal was the word "zero-tolerance" in the title.
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If someone said they were zero tolerance for murder yet considered themselves a tolerant person, would you call that person a hypocrite? No, people can be tolerant of others yet have things they have a zero tolerance for. No one is 100% any one thing.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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If someone said they were zero tolerance for murder yet considered themselves a tolerant person, would you call that person a hypocrite? No, people can be tolerant of others yet have things they have a zero tolerance for. No one is 100% any one thing.
Liberals don't apply that logic to conservatives who oppose liberal positions.

That is hypocritical.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Liberals don't apply that logic to conservatives who oppose liberal positions.

That is hypocritical.
Actually I think that rule applies to everyone, liberal and conservative. But there is a difference between zero tolerance and being a bigot.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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But there is a difference between zero tolerance and being a bigot.
The OP is bigoted against smokers.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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It should not be the landlords' and/or building mgmt.'s responsibility to provide clean air to tenants. Smokers are the problems in buildings and the onus should be totally on them. Most important is that laws must be enforced and the violators given stiff penalties. Just as there are more and more laws prohibiting smoking in places of employment, there should be likewise so that normal, healthy people can rent out apartments without having to become victims of second-hand smoke. I see no difference between being forced to breath in fumes from leaky gas pipes and other forms of toxicity, and being forced to breathe in second-hand smoke. I am including pot. The local and federal health dept.s have been extremely tardy in making it possible for normal, healthy people to live in apartment buildings without having to become victims of second-hand smoke. This includes apartment building which rent out to Section 8 / subsidized tenants.
And hopefully it includes marijuana, too. I actually think possible pending dope legalization is making them put in an overall smoking ban in multi-unit dwellings.

I live in an apartment complex and this one and all others I have lived in the smell and smoke comes through the walls.
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It should not be the landlords' and/or building mgmt.'s responsibility to provide clean air to tenants. Smokers are the problems in buildings and the onus should be totally on them. Most important is that laws must be enforced and the violators given stiff penalties. Just as there are more and more laws prohibiting smoking in places of employment, there should be likewise so that normal, healthy people can rent out apartments without having to become victims of second-hand smoke. I see no difference between being forced to breath in fumes from leaky gas pipes and other forms of toxicity, and being forced to breathe in second-hand smoke. I am including pot. The local and federal health dept.s have been extremely tardy in making it possible for normal, healthy people to live in apartment buildings without having to become victims of second-hand smoke. This includes apartment building which rent out to Section 8 / subsidized tenants.
I read your screen name, and that is about all I needed to read to determine this is a troll thread
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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I have happened to stumble across many rental ads where they specify that the house or building is smoke free. It's not too difficult.

Those rule are NEVER followed by the smokerpigs or enforced by the lazy/greedy managementards.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:01 AM
 
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It should not be the landlords' and/or building mgmt.'s responsibility to provide clean air to tenants. Smokers are the problems in buildings and the onus should be totally on them. Most important is that laws must be enforced and the violators given stiff penalties. Just as there are more and more laws prohibiting smoking in places of employment, there should be likewise so that normal, healthy people can rent out apartments without having to become victims of second-hand smoke. I see no difference between being forced to breath in fumes from leaky gas pipes and other forms of toxicity, and being forced to breathe in second-hand smoke. I am including pot. The local and federal health dept.s have been extremely tardy in making it possible for normal, healthy people to live in apartment buildings without having to become victims of second-hand smoke. This includes apartment building which rent out to Section 8 / subsidized tenants.
Wow, somebody sounds like they need a nap.
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