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We can also look at Camden N.J. also as an example of extreme poverty.
Chris Hedges uses Camden and Pine Ridge as examples in his latest book "Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt"
We also could cut our bloated Military/Homeland Security budget in half and still have a very strong military, we out spend all our allies, China and Russia.
The fact is, there is an incredible amount of money being thrown at the problem and throwing money at the problem very obviously is not working. The fact is, Obama and the liberals have been in power for over 4 years now and nothing is being done to bring poverty rates down. The fact is, much of our poverty is imported because the fact is that being poor in the USA is bringing many millions of people over the border.
Obama himself says that we need more immigrants because Americans don't want the jobs.
No this is not the truth. Poverty programs are very stingy and a very small part of the federal budget and involve a small percentage of the population.
Immigration rates are down. The down economy is thought to be causing fewer undocumented immigrants.
President Obama has nothing to do with the fact that conservatives hate poor people and don't at all deal with poverty or hunger in America.
Hey there, I can make uneducated assumptions too. Liberals are the only ones who really care about fixing the poverty in America, as long as it's done with other people's money. They believe that it's the Government's job to provide for everyone and that only Government can fix the problem. Therefore if we take all the money away from the evil white rich people who couldn't possibly have worked their fingers raw to get where they are, then we can give it to the poor and completely change people's personality and character and they will never be poor again.
Liberals want everyone to be dependent on them so they can control them, because all liberals are narcissistic, self-righteous, power-hungry communists.
Liberals hate Christianity because having faith means you have morals and standards.
Liberals all display the same incredible hypocrisy and duplicity that universally condemns the views and actions of their opponents even if they are using the same tactics.
Liberals are habitual liars who make up "statistics" and "facts" on the spot to suit whatever argument they are making.
Liberals claim to be the bastions of acceptance and tolerance except when it comes to anyone who disagrees with them.
All this is bull crap just as the tirade you went on about conservatives. Yes there are individual cases but on the whole people are generally decent. As a conservative myself I have no problem with helping the poor. People are more inclined to be generous with their money WHEN YOU DON'T FORCE IT THROUGH TAXATION. You talk about conservatives seeing the poor as immoral and lazy. Sometimes that is true but it is by no means the rule. Conservatives have a greater track record of looking at a situation with a logical mind rather than immediately resorting to their passions and emotion. More often than not the "poor" are poor because of their own decisions and tendencies. You can't lift someone with no financial management ability out of poverty with donations.
You can believe what you want. What I wrote about conservatives is based on reality, not fantasy. Anyone who listens to conservatives discuss poverty or hunger in America, they don't deal with statistics. They accuse poor people of being immoral and lazy or they deny it is a problem.
Iamme73, for as much as you claim conservatives are full of hate, you seem to be spouting out a fair bit yourself. Why don't you quit trying to tell people what they are and what they think. Or am I just full of hate? This is an observation, not a personal attack. Understand that.
Irrelevant. I have not spoken one negative word about conservatives. I am discussing their beliefs as displayed by their own ideas and words.
You can believe what you want. What I wrote about conservatives is based on reality, not fantasy. Anyone who listens to conservatives discuss poverty or hunger in America, they don't deal with statistics. They accuse poor people of being immoral and lazy or they deny it is a problem.
The largest problem Appalachian people face is the fact that there are no jobs and the education is **** poor. No companies are going to move there no matter how low the tax rate is if the population isn't educated enough.
So again, your answer is ...let them work harder and get a better education, right? Unless you're suddenly about to veer off the usual conservative script you post.
There are a number of right-wing fruit cakes with low IQs who insist our poor are better off than poor people in Denmark, Sweden etc (these are the same right wing fruit cakes who think Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Atheist who went to a black supremacist Christian Church for 20 years )
Well, the thing is, real poverty isn't the handful of welfare queens they show on television living in an urban area with food stamps and a cell phone. No, the poorest place in America, county wise, is actually Buffalo County, South Dakota. It is located in a Native American reservation and is on land the US government said they Natives could have because it is infertile and out of the way (but I forgot, the Government is only bad when it helps the poor and when it puts down brown people, it's beautiful, huh right wing hacks?)
"Buffalo County, S.D., is the nation's poorest county. The 2000 census says Buffalo County has more poor children than any other county in the nation. The latest round of census numbers show us how many homes don't have kitchens, plumbing and telephones. In Buffalo County the number of homes without those basic services is increasing."
But hey, I guess they should just "lift themselves up with their boot straps" even though the government stole their boots
And it's not just the natives either. Ever hear of a little bothered about place in America called "Appalachia"? Well, the poverty there is long term and awful.
"While in Appalachia, those I was traveling with and I worked on repairing homes and other structures. The homes for the poor residents of Appalachia are little more than trailers that have been turned into permanent dwellings and shacks built by people who do not understand building construction very well."
I am lucky that I was born into a lower-working class family in the city, because at least I had some opportunities. For people facing rural poverty in America, they have even less.
But hey, we can't do anything that will make the super rich cry, no sir, that would be Socialism (scarrrrry!) Yes, true Americans know to BOW DOWN to their corporate masters and never question the status quo, or so Faux News Propaganda tells us.
The growing disparity between the "minds" of the right wing useful idiots and the reality of America and the world is appalling. To the rest of us with a brain (i.e., progressives) I ask this: who is it going to be, us:
Edit: FOR THE RECORD, I am NOT a fan of that corporate owned hack Obama, who is just as bad as the GOP but simply hides it slightly better. His policies are a part of the problem I actually voted Green Party in the last election as a protest vote.
This article comes from a PBS writer so it is going to slanted, just like articles written by right wingers are slanted. It is telling one side, but it is still very interesting. Please remember, when the question was asked about the poor in America few were comparing them with the Scandinavian countries, where it is true, there are very few poor people. The residents are taxed at an unbelievable % and the contries are, mostly socialistic. There are other wealthy countries where the poor do not have the advantages they do here. In many civiliazed countries kids don't even have to go to school. think about it that way, or they drop out before they get anywhere near finishing highschool. For every advantage one country has, another country offers a different advantage.
The only reason you're not wealthy is because you're either not trying hard enough, or you are too stupid to climb the tree to get the coconut and are waiting for the other apes to throw you one.
The only time there will be a lack of opportunity in this country is when you socialist fools remove it. EVERYONE, from the trailer park to the Manhattan skyline has an equal opportunity to do something for themselves. The only problem they face is cowardice. Prove me wrong.
You cannot possibly believe that people who are born into rich families and people who are born into poor families have an "equal" opportunity. NO ONE could be that stupid.
"Prove you wrong"? Please read real research on poverty -- not C-D posts. There's a ton of it out there, and most of it shows, not surprisingly, that people who are born poor (or working-class, for that matter) have much worse "life chances" than people who are born middle- or upper-class.
Of course, reading the research requires that you put aside your preconceived notions about poor people and understand that it is largely STRUCTURAL, not a matter of individual effort. Note that I say "largely" -- OF COURSE some people contribute to their own poverty, but that doesn't take away its larger, structural nature.
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What a crock! Travelling extensively throughout the U.S. and making a point to get off the beaten path has shown me shacks like that pictured in the O/P's link, in the very heart of every state in the union.
President "O" simply has to scooch his chair back and look out a window of ANY of the Capital buildings he happens to be having his lunch deliverd to whatever desk he's sitting at and tell his driver to go straight for 10 blocks in that direction and he'd see first hand, poverty up close and personal.
House of cards.
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